Ich and Acanthurus tangs - Years of experience and ich management

Alright folks I wanted to share some pretty shameful realities about my past and dealing with Acanthurus tangs. To anyone that doesn't know,...
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    That will not have any impact on marine ich - but it will increase stress to the fish which will exacerbate the problem, if anything. This decreases the oxygen "capacity" of the water too (warmer water does this)

    It MAY speed the life cycle of the parasite as well, which would further worsen the results, but there's no definitive proof that this last point is the case.
     
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    ^^ Agree; the "warm water" theory is more applicable to FW Ich (Ichthyophthirius multifiliis). It has been proven to speed up that parasite's life cycle: http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/fa006

    Unfortunately, no direct evidence exists (yet) to support this same theory for Marine Ich (Cryptocaryon irritans). The correlation between temperature and Crypto seems to be intentionally kept vague in every publication I have read. :confused:
     
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    Thx
     
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    Can I add chloroquine Phosphate to the DT if my tank is FOT? Is Cp same as copper
     
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    Sorry I don't know what FOT is -- I fail haha.
     
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    Fish only tank
     
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    I would avoid adding any meds to a display tank -- especially with the inability to measure and test CP - I wouldn't want all of those things that can absorb meds there -- it'll undermine its effectiveness
     
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    They are not the same, but in some respects they are similar. CP has less side effects than copper, but neither should be used in a display. It's unknown just how much CP would be absorbed in the rocks ect, and since it can't be tested by the average hobbyist, it's best to avoid that all together and stick with the peace of mind a QT offers. :)
     
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    I have too many fish my qt is not big enough so I don't know what to do(
     
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    There are things you can do in this situation, though they all involve getting something to use as a QT. Rubbermaid makes stock tanks you can keep large fish in (or large numbers of fish). Craigslist is full of empty used tanks that you can possibly get for cheap (or cheap considering what it would cost to replace all or most of your fish).
     
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    Once with but CP In the qt when should we do a water change and how much? How long does this treatment take?
     
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    Do a WC as needed when ammonia is present or just to tidy up the QT. Dose the replacement water with Chloroquine BEFORE adding it to the QT, so therapeutic levels remain constant.

    Standard treatment time is 30 days, same as copper.
     
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    I have wc every other day why my ammonia still present
     
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    You may need to add a bacteria in a bottle product to help the filter cycle a bit faster.
     
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    Ok I see
     
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    Yes this means the tank is not cycled completely.
     
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