Is this ich on my clownfish?

[dakk50]

Relatively newly cycled Reefer 350 with just 2 juvenile clownfish inhabitants. I noticed these white spots on one of them. They are eating and acting normally. I have a feeling it is ich but would like another set of eyes to confirm my suspicions.
Thanks everyone.

 

[polyppal]

Looks like it

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Relatively newly cycled Reefer 350 with just 2 juvenile clownfish inhabitants. I noticed these white spots on one of them. They are eating and acting normally. I have a feeling it is ich but would like another set of eyes to confirm my suspicions.
Thanks everyone.

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

That does appear to be ich. Your best course of action would be to move all of the fish out of this tank and into a treatment tank and dose them with either copper or low salinity. I can walk you through either of those treatments if you want to give it a try.

Jay

 

[dakk50]

Thank you both for the responses. A little bit of an update; I no longer thing it is ich but actually Velvet or Brook. It definitely got worse overnight and there are now dark splotches all over the affected fish in addition to the white spots. My plan is to get a QT/hospital tank set up ASAP after work and attempt a FW dip to try and save the little guys. It will be a few days before I can get my hands on the proper medication, fingers crossed.

I plan on letting the DT sit fallow for the recommended time, with ghost feeding and some spot feeding for the soft corals I have in the tank.

 

[Sharkbait19]

What do the dark splotches look like? Small black spots are often indicative of coral stings when initially hosting.

 

[dakk50]

What do the dark splotches look like? Small black spots are often indicative of coral stings when initially hosting.

I am terrible at describing things, I will have to grab a picture when I get home this afternoon. They are larger than the white spots and oddly shaped. They seems to have popped up overnight.
If it helps, the coral frags i have in the tank right now are GSP, pink anthelia, yellow parazoanthus, and nirvana zoanthids.

 

[SlugSnorter]

I am terrible at describing things, I will have to grab a picture when I get home this afternoon. They are larger than the white spots and oddly shaped. They seems to have popped up overnight.
If it helps, the coral frags i have in the tank right now are GSP, pink anthelia, yellow parazoanthus, and nirvana zoanthids.

like this?

or this

 

[dakk50]

like this?

or this

I would say closer to the bottom picture.

 

[SlugSnorter]

I would say closer to the bottom picture.

sometimes clown can get those pigment splotches, especially when stressed and even sometimes nearly and random

params/param swings?

 

[Sharkbait19]

Bottom is stings, though none of your corals have a particularly strong one.

 

[dakk50]

Daily Testing
Salinity 1.025
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5/10
Have not been testing ca/mg/etc yet
Nothing has swung to my knowledge

 

[SlugSnorter]

Daily Testing
Salinity 1.025
Ammonia 0
Nitrite 0
Nitrate 5/10
Have not been testing ca/mg/etc yet
Nothing has swung to my knowledge

5/10 or 5 to 10?

 

[dakk50]

5/10 or 5 to 10?

Sorry, somewhere between 5 and 10 with the Red Sea test kit .

 

[SlugSnorter]

Sorry, somewhere between 5 and 10 with the Red Sea test kit .

np sorry.

also wdym by worse overnight? spot or symptom wise? is the fish eating?

 

[dakk50]

np sorry.

also wdym by worse overnight? spot or symptom wise? is the fish eating?

Spot wise. I did not have a chance to check symptoms for too long, but the affected fish swam up to the tank to greet me as usual. I did notice the white spots seemed to have changed/spread similar to this picture of brook i found elsewhere, not my picture.

 

[Lavey29]

That's brook setting in. Both my clowns had the same and then all fish start to die. Quicker you isolate the the better so you can fallow.

 

[dakk50]

That's brook setting in. Both my clowns had the same and then all fish start to die. Quicker you isolate the the better so you can fallow.

That is the plan. Hoping to get a QT set up today, get it to temp overnight and swap them to that tomorrow.

 

[Sharkbait19]

Wouldn’t hurt to do a freshwater dip before moving into the qt to try to get a lot of parasites off. Just don’t put them back into dt after the dip.
It really helped when my pair began to develop brook.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Thank you both for the responses. A little bit of an update; I no longer thing it is ich but actually Velvet or Brook. It definitely got worse overnight and there are now dark splotches all over the affected fish in addition to the white spots. My plan is to get a QT/hospital tank set up ASAP after work and attempt a FW dip to try and save the little guys. It will be a few days before I can get my hands on the proper medication, fingers crossed.

I plan on letting the DT sit fallow for the recommended time, with ghost feeding and some spot feeding for the soft corals I have in the tank.

Gross visual ID of parasites is very difficult. Ich that has festered for some time begins to look like Brooklynella. Since copper is the best treatment for ich or velvet, you just need to rule out Brook as a cause, since for that you will need formalin. Velvet will first show as rapid breathing and the fish stop eating. With ich, the fish eat and swim normally until rather late in the infection. With Brook, the fish start swimming with sort of a "stilted" or stiff motion.

If you post a short video under white light, I might be able to make an educated guess....


Jay

 

[dakk50]

Gross visual ID of parasites is very difficult. Ich that has festered for some time begins to look like Brooklynella. Since copper is the best treatment for ich or velvet, you just need to rule out Brook as a cause, since for that you will need formalin. Velvet will first show as rapid breathing and the fish stop eating. With ich, the fish eat and swim normally until rather late in the infection. With Brook, the fish start swimming with sort of a "stilted" or stiff motion.

If you post a short video under white light, I might be able to make an educated guess....


Jay

See attached for pictures. I will upload the video in a second post.