Lets Talk Substrates for the Marine Aquarium

  1. Maritimer

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    Welcome aboard, ValiantJared!

    I think that's the implication they make for Marine Pure . . .

    I've got two of them for my in-progress 220 build, one of which has been stewing in the sump of the 65 for a couple of months now. (I may move that one to a 75-gallon QT, along with all my fish, as I've seen a few spots that might be ich - and I want an Acanthurus or two in the 220.) Once the 220 is wet, I plan on one block in the sump (high flow) and one hidden under the rockwork in the display as a low-flow / denitrifying zone. I'll let folks know how it works out!

    ~Bruce
     
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    yeah since ill be working with a nano AIO tank there wont be much room for biological filtration, this seems like a good solution to the problem
     
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    brandon429 why did you put a reef in that R2R Supporter R2R Excellence Award

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    look how clean a sandbed can be, it makes an aquarium ageless to keep them this clean, 11 yrs in this set here



    24 hours later
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    Its cloudless, disturbing my sandbed yields no danger at all, no food for algae, no recycle risk yet it still assists in aerobic filtration capacity for the micro system.
     
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    I have had this problem in fresh water and its probably to strong of flow, nitrfying bacteria bloom, or tiny bubbles you can't individually see. If its too strong flow turn it down. If its bacteria then I will go away by the time your cycle is done and if its bubbles then turn off everything in the aquarium and leave it over night. If you try the last thing remember your live rock because no flow could kill it but it should be fine.
    Hope this helps
     
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    How deep should my sand bed be in my refugium? Display?
     
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    Very informative forum on the subject. It is difficult to get new sand to not cloud the water. If the sand is real fine, it can take many filtration cycles. We go bare bottom in our tanks where we harvest soft shell crabs.

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    I've spent the better part of the last week reading up on dsb, ssb, Paul B's reverse ugf, the Kansas City Chiefs, blueberry cheesecake, and any other shiny object that's distracted me. I'm essentially no closer to understanding substrates.

    When I set up my off the shelf 55 I had no idea what I was doing. I added a little of this and a lot of that. 14 months later I have a great understanding of my fish, my anemones (3 bta and 1 lta), and some of the less intricate aspects of the hobby.. I Do, however, have sand storms on and off throughout the day. Sugar grain sand, 2 gyre pumps, and a diamond goby make sure of that. I've been emailing Crystal Dynamics about a custom 60x24x26 or 60x30x24 rimless. As such, I want to go into this build as prepared as possible for long term success.

    Finally, my question(s). If I plop down 1-2" of substrate and hit it with a baster 1-2 times a week, can I have long term success? The dsb guys say no, the ssb crew says yes, I refuse to go bb because I'm not about that life. Is there a black substrate fine enough for gobies/wrasses yet coarse enough for high flow? Do the Chiefs have any shot in winning the Superbowl? Last one was obviously a pipe dream.. Those questions may be elementary but man, everyone has everything to say about one over the other. Me? I personally prefer cake over pie but I just want a tank that, with some elbow grease, I can enjoy for years to come...
     
  8. Paul B

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    It works for me but I only do that once or twice a year. I use a diatom filter, a baster is too gentle of a way to make a typhoon :rolleyes:

    I did it yesterday during a water change.

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    @Paul B Thank you for the response. Is there a particular brand filter you prefer?
     
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    No, the diatom filter I use is a Vortex.
     
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    Thanks. I saw those on Amazon and will pick one up. I feel like you might know a thing or two about running a reef. Now, is this done with or without listening to rap?
     
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    You want the aragonite, which will help to buffer your pH, and provide a natural environment for nitrifying bacteria and many of your cleanup crew. The "National Geographic" sand is likely to be a quartz substrate, intended for freshwater environments. (National Geographic, as a brand, gets a lot less respect from me, after putting their golden frames onto the mediocre stuff sold through Petsmart....)

    ~Bruce
     
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    As do I once a year or so. LOL
     
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    I use premium play sand from lowe's, home depot, Walmart, etc
     
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