Lobophyllia ID

[ros3to]

Anyone kind and knowledgeable enough to help me ID a couple of lobos? I've kept most of these for some time now and knowing it's species would be great for future purchases as I've come to find out they don't all play nice with each other.
Any and all Input is greatly appreciated.
TIA

 

[Shirak]

Many Lobos are Acan. pachysepta and very aggressive. @thamnasteroid can help figure out what's what.

 

[DSC reef]

They're definitely lobo, are you looking for vendor names?

 

[ros3to]

They're definitely lobo, are you looking for vendor names?

Not exactly, I don't much care about trade names. I'm trying to figure out their species if possible, there is too much that fits under the lobophyllia umbrella and not all of them play nice with each other. I'm trying to go for a "garden" of lobophyllia and this info would greatly help me and my pockets lol.

 

[ros3to]

Many Lobos are Acan. pachysepta and very aggressive. @thamnasteroid can help figure out what's what.

Yeah I found out the hard way! Haha
They were all sold under the same label/name and i placed some of them together the rest is history

 

[DSC reef]

Not exactly, I don't much care about trade names. I'm trying to figure out their species if possible, there is too much that fits under the lobophyllia umbrella and not all of them play nice with each other. I'm trying to go for a "garden" of lobophyllia and this info would greatly help me and my pockets lol.

I gotcha, you're in the right forum for sure my friend you have an amazing garden

 

[ReneReef]

The only Lobophyllia I see is the orange/red one in the second picture. The rest are Acanthastrea pachysepta, as mentioned earlier.

More info on that species:
https://reefbuilders.com/2019/10/01/acanthastrea-pachysepta-your-orange-lobo-is-most-likely-an-acan/

 

[DSC reef]

The only Lobophyllia I see is the orange/red one in the second picture. The rest are Acanthastrea pachysepta, as mentioned earlier.

More info on that species:
https://reefbuilders.com/2019/10/01/acanthastrea-pachysepta-your-orange-lobo-is-most-likely-an-acan/

Hey Renee, has lobo hemprechii been reclassified as well? Trying to keep makes ones head spin. Lol

 

[ros3to]

Thank you so much for that article. It definitely cleared some questions. Now I'm sad I don't have actual lobos lol
Could take a look at the green one in the second picture?
That one looks so much different than all the rest but was still labeled as a lobo

 

[ros3to]

I gotcha, you're in the right forum for sure my friend you have an amazing garden

Thank you they will eventually have their own island but wanted to get their species right first.

 

[ReneReef]

Thank you so much for that article. It definitely cleared some questions. Now I'm sad I don't have actual lobos lol
Could take a look at the green one in the second picture?
That one looks so much different than all the rest but was still labeled as a lobo

I did look at it, and don’t need to look at it again.
As I said, all except that red/orange one are A. pachysepta.
Read the article, A. pachysepta is very clearly recognizable and the variation in color is big.

Coral names in the trade are dictated by CITES, species names in that system are decades out of date. There are still corals exported/imported under the genus Symphyllia. That name has been declared invalid many years ago.

That a coral was labeled under a certain name in the trade says very little.

Why on earth would you be sad about these beautiful corals? I don’t understand, unless you are in this hobby solely for the names and “collecting Pokémon”…

 

[ros3to]

I did look at it, and don’t need to look at it again.
As I said, all except that red/orange one are A. pachysepta.
Read the article, A. pachysepta is very clearly recognizable and the variation in color is big.

Coral names in the trade are dictated by CITES, species names in that system are decades out of date. There are still corals exported/imported under the genus Symphyllia. That name has been declared invalid many years ago.

That a coral was labeled under a certain name in the trade says very little.

Why on earth would you be sad about these beautiful corals? I don’t understand, unless you are in this hobby solely for the names and “collecting Pokémon”…

Who ruffled your feathers man? Not sure if that was the intention but it sure came out a little hostile.
Why would I be sad?
Because what i thought i had is not actually what I have? Doesn't mean i don't like the coral as that's the only reason the piece was purchased to begin with, had you looked up at my other replies you would have seen where I explicitly said that I don't care about the names the industry has given them and that I'm looking for their species.
anyways thank you for the attached article.

 

[thamnasteroid]

In the first photo, the ones in the middle are pachysepta, the left and right I'm not so sure about
2nd photo both are Lobophyllia cf hemprichii
3rd photo is a pachysepta

 

[thamnasteroid]

Hey Renee, has lobo hemprechii been reclassified as well? Trying to keep makes ones head spin. Lol

hemprichii is still Lobo, and differs from pachysepta in that it has a more "velvety" flesh texture (as opposed to concentric winkles) without any septal beading, and grows larger colonies.

compare:
Lobophyllia cf. hemprichii | Rainbow Reef, Fiji | Credit: @thamnasteroid

Acanthastrea pachysepta | Palm Islands, Great Barrier Reef | Credit: Sue Churchill

 

[DSC reef]

hemprichii is still Lobo, and differs from pachysepta in that it has a more "velvety" flesh texture (as opposed to concentric winkles) without any septal beading, and grows larger colonies.

compare:
Lobophyllia cf. hemprichii | Rainbow Reef, Fiji | Credit: @thamnasteroid

Acanthastrea pachysepta | Palm Islands, Great Barrier Reef | Credit: Sue Churchill

Thank you for that

 

[ros3to]

In the first photo, the ones in the middle are pachysepta, the left and right I'm not so sure about
2nd photo both are Lobophyllia cf hemprichii
3rd photo is a pachysepta

Awesome thank you so much, I really appreciate you and everyone who took the time to read and answer!
Would it help you if I got better pictures of those 2 in question?
Red and blue in the first picture is the newest piece and I'm scared to move it closer to the rest to see if they'd play nice or not, the rest have been all bunched up for over a year with no incident so maybe the green one is also pachysepta?