New tank, what brand?

[fishface NJ]

low key i feel like 20 more gallons and 10 more gallons is not gonna make much of a difference in their mood when they wake up in the morning

It's the tank foot print....the length

it is not 20g more for the fox face...it's 100+

 

[Extremeengineer]

you’re talking about this 80 gal deal?

Yes, but don't let that stop you. Maybe it was just my childhood basement this mirrors lol.

 

[Extremeengineer]

low key i feel like 20 more gallons and 10 more gallons is not gonna make much of a difference in their mood when they wake up in the morning, especially when they’re smaller.

I am not an expert, but I think what many are alluding to is that with increased volume one typically gains length. So for the 100+ fish, often it's the difference between a 4' and a 6' tank that is the key. That's something they notice lol. But if you are willing to compromise on your stocking, 80 is a big step up from your 40, and opens you up to lots of options... just not ALL the options.

 

[eliaslikesfish]

It's the tank foot print....the length

it is not 20g more for the fox face...it's 100+

ok, 100 gallon was the original plan anyways, but still an extra 1 inch of swimming space for a baby 2 inch tang, i don’t think it’ll be depressed lol IM 100 gal ext overflow tank is 47 inches long, this 80 gallon is 46.

 

[eliaslikesfish]

I am not an expert, but I think what many are alluding to is that with increased volume one typically gains length. So for the 100+ fish, often it's the difference between a 4' and a 6' tank that is the key. That's something they notice lol. But if you are willing to compromise on your stocking, 80 is a big step up from your 40, and opens you up to lots of options... just not ALL the options.

IM 100g ext overflow tank is 47 inches long
this 80 gallon is 46, are you saying since it’s only an inch longer i need to go with a bigger tank?

 

[slythy]

I have a 70g rimless planted aquarium I use as a frag tank and then I have a 180g planet aquarium display. They are phenomenal tanks for the price. I think external bean animal is the way to go. Internal overflow takes up so much display room for almost always 2 pipe solution.

 

[eliaslikesfish]

I have a 70g rimless planted aquarium I use as a frag tank and then I have a 180g planet aquarium display. They are phenomenal tanks for the price. I think external bean animal is the way to go. Internal overflow takes up so much display room for almost always 2 pipe solution.

thank you!!

 

[fishface NJ]

Not all 100g are created equal

60"w x 18"w and 20h is what you need...60" being the key


Good luck with your new tank!

 

[eliaslikesfish]

Not all 100g are created equal

60"w x 18"w and 20h is what you need...60" being the key


Good luck with your new tank!

thanks mate, my baby yellow is gonna love the 47 inches lol

 

[Extremeengineer]

IM 100g ext overflow tank is 47 inches long
this 80 gallon is 46, are you saying since it’s only an inch longer i need to go with a bigger tank?

I was saying that based on the 3 fish you really want, you'd be better off with a 6' tank. But if you are willing to compromise on what you are putting in, or if you are going to use it as a grow out tank, a 48ish tank definitely gives you more options than your 40g. The grow out becomes a slippery slope though, especially for something like a hippo. How big is too big for an 80, and are you going to rehome to somewhere good at that point, or keep it juuuust a little longer, which is open ended.

 

[Crabby48]

I definitely wouldn’t get a Red Sea since they all are popping seams and they dealt with it terrible. Maybe new ones are better but also seen an upgraded one pop a seam

 

[fishface NJ]

BTW the IM 100 isn't really 100g

• Approximately 100 Gallons
• DIMS: 47.3" x 23.6" x 19.7"

If you use the BRS water calculator it's 91g and this is using the outside dimensions

 

[X-37B]

BTW the IM 100 isn't really 100g

• Approximately 100 Gallons
• DIMS: 47.3" x 23.6" x 19.7"

If you use the BRS water calculator it's 91g and this is using the outside dimensions

Inside dims on the ext 100 = 76g's.
My ext 170 59×30×21.7 is only 135 inside dims.

 

[Spare time]

I like fijicube

 

[VintageReefer]

Some vendors count the sump towards the total gallons. It’s somewhat misleading. If we used those standards here for “total volume in the bundle” it’s 115g

BTW the IM 100 isn't really 100g

• Approximately 100 Gallons
• DIMS: 47.3" x 23.6" x 19.7"

If you use the BRS water calculator it's 91g and this is using the outside dimensions

BTW the IM 100 isn't really 100g

• Approximately 100 Gallons
• DIMS: 47.3" x 23.6" x 19.7"

This tank being suggested is 48x20x20
A standard 75g is 48x18x18

It’s a 75g tank that’s 2” taller and 2” wider

100 gal ext overflow tank is 47 inches long, this 80 gallon is 46.

The 80g is actually a inch longer, it’s 48

If you got young or small fish to start with the chances of compatibility and overall success increase greatly. Fox face is fine in 70g min according to live aquaria, they are industry standard for size recommendations.

Plenty of people here also have said they do fine in a 75g and this tank is 2” taller and 2” wider

 

[Devaji]

I would not rush into this. slow down, really and i mean really think about this.

what fish are must have
what fish are man that would be sweet
what fish are hell if I am dreaming here...

looks like you're a tang guy I feel the 80 would be to small for what you want long term but if you want a few small wrasses and other fish 4" or smaller it would be good.
deff. a good deal.

if you like tangs just get the IM 200 its a great tank! the peninsula is even better :)

if one is going to upgrade do it right the 1st time.

now all that said there is a sweet spot in tank size ,price and what fits your budget and home.

the IM 112 looks like its a sweet tank too.

others brands to price out and think about are:
fiji cube
pro star
cade
glass cages
water box
SCA


or you could just go all out crazy and build a DIY plywood aquarium and have all the tangs...haha

good luck man! I know the feeling of tank shopping, its exciting but also a bit of work.

edit: I am a fan of the ext overflows. some brands the overflow is huge...

 

[Devaji]

Ok tank shopping for you....let me spend your hard earned money. lol

given your desire of tangs/fox face I think this would be a great blance between size and price.
https://www.innovative-marine.com/s...um-w-APS-Stand-White-Made-to-Order-p238793665
the depth of these tanks are nice. might not be able to have all the big tangs but they can swim in and out of the rock work as well and back n forth.

the IM sumps are nice but you can DIY one with a 60br and it will work just as good.

if your handy and like to build a stand this is an option form SCA not a bad price .
http://www.scaquariums.com/SCA-150-Gallon-Starfire-Tank-p/sca-150g-go.htm

 

[eliaslikesfish]

Some vendors count the sump towards the total gallons. It’s somewhat misleading. If we used those standards here for “total volume in the bundle” it’s 115g


BTW the IM 100 isn't really 100g

• Approximately 100 Gallons
• DIMS: 47.3" x 23.6" x 19.7"

This tank being suggested is 48x20x20
A standard 75g is 48x18x18

It’s a 75g tank that’s 2” taller and 2” wider



The 80g is actually a inch longer, it’s 48

If you got young or small fish to start with the chances of compatibility and overall success increase greatly. Fox face is fine in 70g min according to live aquaria, they are industry standard for size recommendations.

Plenty of people here also have said they do fine in a 75g and this tank is 2” taller and 2” wider

okay, thank you very much for clearing that all up.

 

[eliaslikesfish]

I would not rush into this. slow down, really and i mean really think about this.

what fish are must have
what fish are man that would be sweet
what fish are hell if I am dreaming here...

looks like you're a tang guy I feel the 80 would be to small for what you want long term but if you want a few small wrasses and other fish 4" or smaller it would be good.
deff. a good deal.

if you like tangs just get the IM 200 its a great tank! the peninsula is even better :)

if one is going to upgrade do it right the 1st time.

now all that said there is a sweet spot in tank size ,price and what fits your budget and home.

the IM 112 looks like its a sweet tank too.

others brands to price out and think about are:
fiji cube
pro star
cade
glass cages
water box
SCA


or you could just go all out crazy and build a DIY plywood aquarium and have all the tangs...haha

good luck man! I know the feeling of tank shopping, its exciting but also a bit of work.

edit: I am a fan of the ext overflows. some brands the overflow is huge...

thanks a lot! I’m thinking probably the IM 150 now tbh, if I’m gonna wanna go bigger later anyways might as well just do it now.

 

[eliaslikesfish]

Ok tank shopping for you....let me spend your hard earned money. lol

given your desire of tangs/fox face I think this would be a great blance between size and price.
https://www.innovative-marine.com/s...um-w-APS-Stand-White-Made-to-Order-p238793665
the depth of these tanks are nice. might not be able to have all the big tangs but they can swim in and out of the rock work as well and back n forth.

the IM sumps are nice but you can DIY one with a 60br and it will work just as good.

if your handy and like to build a stand this is an option form SCA not a bad price .
http://www.scaquariums.com/SCA-150-Gallon-Starfire-Tank-p/sca-150g-go.htm

love this idea.