Palytoxin - links to pet illness ?

[samnaz]

Are there any instances in which pet illness has been linked to palytoxin?
Long story short - my cat is sick. Our vet has ruled out all suspects (cancer/disease/infection) and insists, I mean INSISTS, his illness is a reaction to a toxin (for example, anti-freeze). The only cleaning products I own/use is White Vinegar or Clorox wipes and neither explain his sickness.

The only other toxin I can possibly think of is palytoxin.

I realize this probably is and sounds totally ridiculous - But I've been wracking my brain for days trying to figure out what's wrong with my cat, and at this point, this is all I can think of.

Can I rule out palytoxin?

If you have read or heard or experienced anything PLEASE speak up. I don't care if the evidence is nothing more than anecdotal. I am taking everything in to consideration at this point.

Thanks in advance.

 

[evolved]

Are there any instances in which pet illness has been linked to palytoxin?

Yes, but only in instances where toxins were aerosolized by boiling rocks or scrubbing palys outside the water, or in instances where the pet ate palys.

None that I'm aware of by just having them in a tank in the home.

 

[Mikedawg]

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6431a4.htm (under additional report mentions dog's reaction) Also, in searching for "pets and palytoxin" anecdotal stories were found: https://reefbuilders.com/2018/03/13/palytoxin-nearly-killed-my-family-and-pets/ and https://reefbuilders.com/2018/03/13/palytoxin-nearly-killed-my-family-and-pets/

I'm interested in what you conclude.

 

[Act1n1c_L1fe]

Are there any instances in which pet illness has been linked to palytoxin?
Long story short - my cat is sick. Our vet has ruled out all suspects (cancer/disease/infection) and insists, I mean INSISTS, his illness is a reaction to a toxin (for example, anti-freeze). The only cleaning products I own/use is White Vinegar or Clorox wipes and neither explain his sickness.

The only other toxin I can possibly think of is palytoxin.

I realize this probably is and sounds totally ridiculous - But I've been wracking my brain for days trying to figure out what's wrong with my cat, and at this point, this is all I can think of.

Can I rule out palytoxin?

If you have read or heard or experienced anything PLEASE speak up. I don't care if the evidence is nothing more than anecdotal. I am taking everything in to consideration at this point.

Thanks in advance.

Are you sure your cat didn’t eat something? Table food, bugs, pesticides, plants? Palytoxin is only strong in Palythoa Grandis and is only dangerous when it enters the bloodstream or is aerosolized by boiling rocks covered with them. There are many other chemicals involved in reef tanks that could also cause poisoning such as test kits etc...

 

[shred5]

Somebody lost their dog to it. It drank some water out of a container some plays were sitting in.

Unless your cat is drinking your tank water I would doubt it.

Cat and dogs are always eating garbage.

 

[Act1n1c_L1fe]

Do you run carbon?

 

[evolved]

Palytoxin is only strong in Palythoa Grandis

Not completely true. Yes, it's super plentiful in Grandis which are a bad offender, but there's plenty in smaller protopalys as well. The mint green ones are notorious offenders.

Unless your cat is drinking your tank water I would doubt it.

Interesting thought. Animals instinctually usually avoid saltwater for drinking, but stranger things have happened.

 

[Act1n1c_L1fe]

Not completely true. Yes, it's super plentiful in Grandis which are a bad offender, but there's plenty in smaller protopalys as well. The mint green ones are notorious offenders.

Interesting thought. Animals instinctually usually avoid saltwater for drinking, but stranger things have happened.

My dog tries to drink saltwater when I do wc’s. He also eats grass, lizard turds, and drinks pool water. He ain’t too bright LOL

 

[Captain Quint]

Good thread and hope your cat is/will be okay and concerns, as you have been presented, can be well founded.

Another product which can make your cat is Swiffer solution if you by chance use it on your floors?

 

[siggy]

We have cats in the factory 1 x .5 mile long, they ingest what they come in contact with when they clean themselves. lets just say we have some Nasty Cats in the factory:eek:

 

[Tattoogotti]

Not completely true. Yes, it's super plentiful in Grandis which are a bad offender, but there's plenty in smaller protopalys as well. The mint green ones are notorious offenders.

Interesting thought. Animals instinctually usually avoid saltwater for drinking, but stranger things have happened.

My dog tries to drink saltwater when I do wc’s. He also eats grass, lizard turds, and drinks pool water. He ain’t too bright LOL

Mines the same way, I used to soak in epsom salt every couple of days. My dog was horrible at trying to drink my bath water that had both epsom salt and iodine in it. She’s also pretty bad about drinking our pool water which is a salt pool that due to our chlorinator takes excessive amounts of salt.

My concern would be with birds specifically, due to their incredibly sensitive respiratory system. I have a conure just feet away from my tank. Not sure if this is correct, but I’ve pledged to only enjoy all things Paly and even Zoas to be safe from other people’s tanks. Are there any other types that could possibly purpose a threat to a sensitive respiratory system?