pods with a 25 gal JBJ

[George03]

I did scan through the threads to try and not rework prior threads.

I have a 2 month old 25 gal jbj ato. 3 chambers, carbon shock, water polish, media filter, up through new cheato chamber with 3 hrs of growth light at night, up and over to the skimmer then out through the small pump, a wave maker. Built with live rock, and live sand. LFS salt and rodi, (lucky me). An ATO with 2.5 gals of RODI. So I have a lot of faith in the quality of the wet goods. All the gadgets are on smart plugs.

I have so far a great experience, 6 corals and 2 clowns all appear thriving. I hand feed each clown about 6 mysis shrimp, with a tea spoon up to 2x per day, from a wet batch with added vitamins. There is enough juice for the rest of the inhabitants, at least provided there.

It almost seems like the genesis project, poof and there is thriving life. Measured through the cycle fine, 4 weeks presto.

Already much maturing, tube thingies, some green/brown hair, diatom, detritus worms, no cyano yet. Did a moderate scrub down and 3 changes so far, the last one was what I would call dirty.

I have a resource chart for dosing corrective Alk, Mg, and Ca, although not accurate, at least is consistent. I do half of the recommended supplement keeping parameters in check.

I have 2 auto feeders I was offered at half price, available to use.

Using Redsea foundations. I use britewell clean, elements and bactor7, Nopox, and I haven't done anything since the start up doses. 2 weeks ago.

Trying to acquire knowledge, life long fresh water whisperer, new to reefing.

The LFS uses the the Brightwell 2 part Alk and CA.

The LFS has the coral gestapo who welcomes me with "your tank is too new", then says have a nice day "Its not mature, 1-2 years", they won't guaranty me their live goods I have 6 of the EZ variety. I get the concern, but as I said, I have a good eye for things.

Finally and thanks for looking!

the questions.

Am I really whistling by the grave yard?

What would be a good use of the 2 pumps for micro dosing.

thirdly, I am really interested in setting up a pod/phtyo culture kit from posidonreef kit. It would almost be like a separate project
I have some space in my work from home office, so it would weirdly be another aqua project growing plankton. So does the scale work out for such a small reef tank, and what about timing, dangers and whatnot. I have only sourced things from my LFS and I am terrified of adding a strange new variable.

Thanks!

 

[George03]

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The last beat down on the green hair was the starter dose of brightwell Clean, along with a starter dose of microbater 7. Good or bad strategy?

 

[Subsea]

@George03
Welcome to the r2r and the hobby, I have been addicted for 55 years. I presently have too many aquariums and I start them very similarly to what you discribe.

Would you give some background to your experience level? I graduated from the Texas Maritime Academy in 1974 as a Marine Engineer and retired from 35 years in deep water offshore drilling as a senior subsea engineer.

 

[Subsea]

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The last beat down on the green hair was the starter dose of brightwell Clean, along with a starter dose of microbater 7. Good or bad strategy?

To answer the question about Microbator 7 requires more information from you. Why do you think that you need more bottled bactetia if you have this:

“I have so far a great experience, 6 corals and 2 clowns all appear thriving. I hand feed each clown about 6 mysis shrimp, with a tea spoon up to 2x per day, from a wet batch with added vitamins. There is enough juice for the rest of the inhabitants, at least provided there.”

“It almost seems like the genesis project, poof and there is thriving life. Measured through the cycle fine, 4 weeks presto.”


If you have this, your ecosystem is thriving. Kudos to your husbandry:
“Already much maturing, tube thingies, some green/brown hair, diatom, detritus worms, no cyano yet. Did a moderate scrub down and 3 changes so far, the last one was what I would call dirty.”

 

[IceNein]

To answer the question about Microbator 7 requires more information from you. Why do you think that you need more bottled bactetia if you have this:

I totally agree with this. Also what makes you think you need NoPox? What are your phosphate levels at?

As far as them not being able to guarantee livestock, well I don't know of any LFS that guarantees livestock. Maybe some do? I don't know.

They're probably hesitant to recommend someone they think is a newbie anything too advanced, which is good. That's what they should be doing. That doesn't mean you're not ready, that just means they're being cautious.

 

[George03]

Thanks guys! I was just thinking the same thing! I just finished testing, and I think I would probably rephrase it with, is it common to microdose Ca and Alk? I see a pattern of steady consumption.

 

[George03]

reaching for the sky.

This one, the lower half of the mouth was fragged thru and you can see it healing by the day. Who says there is nothing to see!

 

[George03]

@George03
Welcome to the r2r and the hobby, I have been addicted for 55 years. I presently have too many aquariums and I start them very similarly to what you discribe.

Would you give some background to your experience level? I graduated from the Texas Maritime Academy in 1974 as a Marine Engineer and retired from 35 years in deep water offshore drilling as a senior subsea engineer.

That is very impressive Subsea. I grew up with aquaria since i was a child, I just I inherited it from my mom. 63 now, and have had say a dozen freshwater projects over the years. But nothing like the kind of happening on marine reefs until this year, which was by accident. My wife made the last tank go the way of the fossil, and she somehow went and bought the most expensive cube, with the stand made of acrylic that wipes clean. Here is a vibrant and helpful community, I am happy to have discovered! I bulked up on most of what the reviews were doing on the BRS site, just to be pre-prepared.

 

[George03]

I totally agree with this. Also what makes you think you need NoPox? What are your phosphate levels at?

As far as them not being able to guarantee livestock, well I don't know of any LFS that guarantees livestock. Maybe some do? I don't know.

They're probably hesitant to recommend someone they think is a newbie anything too advanced, which is good. That's what they should be doing. That doesn't mean you're not ready, that just means they're being cautious.

Right totally agree, hence the exploratory on pods and phyto.

 

[Subsea]

What would be a good use of the 2 pumps for micro dosing.

Keep it simple.

What do you plan to dose and for what purpose?

Trying to acquire knowledge, life long fresh water whisperer, new to reefing.

I am going to challenge you on this.

Instead of technology, after > 50 years of Reefing, I emulate nature. After reading John Tullock’s book “The Natural Reef Aquarium”. His montra was “Less Technology / More Bioogy”. He illustrated the concept of theme tanks with communities that form holistic relationship. I like Caribbean mixed garden lagoons with heavy emphasis on filter feeders and for that purpose I focus on the microbial food web: not dosing.

In recent research, the holistic relationships of the “coral holibiont” has discovered that bacteria crosstalk & manipulate environmental parameters using gene expression.

 

[George03]

Keep it simple.

What do you plan to dose and for what purpose?

I am going to challenge you on this.

Instead of technology, after > 50 years of Reefing, I emulate nature. After reading John Tullock’s book “The Natural Reef Aquarium”. His montra was “Less Technology / More Bioogy”. He illustrated the concept of theme tanks with communities that form holistic relationship. I like Caribbean mixed garden lagoons with heavy emphasis on filter feeders and for that purpose I focus on the microbial food web: not dosing.

In recent research, the holistic relationships of the “coral holibiont” has discovered that bacteria crosstalk & manipulate environmental parameters using gene expression.

and $5 on ebay. done. Yes and I get the oversimplification of tech, but for practicality, being able to turn off pumps with a button press is kind of an incredible luxury too. Also to your point, reefing would probably be very niche, without the internet. Lots o' benefits of the power helpers. It seems to make sense to have a meter help replace the essentials, and until it can nurture off artificial life support. My fresh waters, mostly just succumbed to predatory die off, obviously the hubris of dumb adoptive humans who don't have limitless gallons, and needing to start too big of a pant size to maintain.

 

[George03]

I will probably add the Dosing the Alk, Ca and Mg parameters to a dose meter. Add essentials, vitamins and defensives manually.