Questions on quarantine process

[MiniBukta]

I’ve currently got 2 clowns, fox faced, 3 banggai, 5 lyretail anthisa, lawnmower blenny, watchman goby, and Ruby red dragonette in my QT about to start copper treatment tomorrow. After that, I’ll do the additional 14 day treatments for internal parasite.

I’ve pulled out about 100 or so pods from my 180 gallon DT, as well as making some baby brines for my Ruby Red to eat and hopefully get it eating as I haven’t observed it eating yet. I’ve also ordered a large jar of pods to seed the QT(it was cycled and contains a lot of pvc pipe and fittings). Will the pods stay alive and propogate during the copper treatment?

For the clowns, before I was QT’ing I got Brook in my tank and it took a lot with it. DT has since been fallowed for 3 months and has been running fine and stable for over a year with 3 fish. I have Paraguard, which the bottle says is a safe alternative to formalin. Should I dip in paraguard for an hour at the end of my QT process right before they go into the DT? Is it even necessary if I don’t observe any worrying signs of Brook? Do I NEED to use formalin instead?

Thank you for advice, and I’m always open to additional advice if you see me doing something wrong!

 

[threebuoys]

Don't know the answer about copepods.

Question though, how big is your QT? That's a lot of fish for a small tank. Just want to be sure you have one large enough to handle the population for a couple of months.

I don't think a dip will help very much. Paraguard does not list brook as a target. I would have either formalin or Ruby Red Pro on hand in case Brook appears. Ruby Red Pro does not contain formalin, but the manufacturer still recommends to product for Brook.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I’ve currently got 2 clowns, fox faced, 3 banggai, 5 lyretail anthisa, lawnmower blenny, watchman goby, and Ruby red dragonette in my QT about to start copper treatment tomorrow. After that, I’ll do the additional 14 day treatments for internal parasite.

I’ve pulled out about 100 or so pods from my 180 gallon DT, as well as making some baby brines for my Ruby Red to eat and hopefully get it eating as I haven’t observed it eating yet. I’ve also ordered a large jar of pods to seed the QT(it was cycled and contains a lot of pvc pipe and fittings). Will the pods stay alive and propogate during the copper treatment?

For the clowns, before I was QT’ing I got Brook in my tank and it took a lot with it. DT has since been fallowed for 3 months and has been running fine and stable for over a year with 3 fish. I have Paraguard, which the bottle says is a safe alternative to formalin. Should I dip in paraguard for an hour at the end of my QT process right before they go into the DT? Is it even necessary if I don’t observe any worrying signs of Brook? Do I NEED to use formalin instead?

Thank you for advice, and I’m always open to additional advice if you see me doing something wrong!

Paraguard wont do much if anything for given diseases hence its claims. For a dip, Ruby rally pro aerated is much safer and effective. for the quarantine, Go at least 21 days, preferably 30 and monitor coppersafe level in which with some of the fish you have which are touchy with copper. maintain treatment level 2.1-2.2 and try to keep it there. Copper starts to work at 2.0 or above

No Brook, dont concern yourself with formalin, at least for now

 

[MnFish1]

I’ve currently got 2 clowns, fox faced, 3 banggai, 5 lyretail anthisa, lawnmower blenny, watchman goby, and Ruby red dragonette in my QT about to start copper treatment tomorrow. After that, I’ll do the additional 14 day treatments for internal parasite.

I’ve pulled out about 100 or so pods from my 180 gallon DT, as well as making some baby brines for my Ruby Red to eat and hopefully get it eating as I haven’t observed it eating yet. I’ve also ordered a large jar of pods to seed the QT(it was cycled and contains a lot of pvc pipe and fittings). Will the pods stay alive and propogate during the copper treatment?

For the clowns, before I was QT’ing I got Brook in my tank and it took a lot with it. DT has since been fallowed for 3 months and has been running fine and stable for over a year with 3 fish. I have Paraguard, which the bottle says is a safe alternative to formalin. Should I dip in paraguard for an hour at the end of my QT process right before they go into the DT? Is it even necessary if I don’t observe any worrying signs of Brook? Do I NEED to use formalin instead?

Thank you for advice, and I’m always open to additional advice if you see me doing something wrong!

No - I do not believe they - or other inverts will do well in copper (Edit - The pods)

 

[MiniBukta]

Don't know the answer about copepods.

Question though, how big is your QT? That's a lot of fish for a small tank. Just want to be sure you have one large enough to handle the population for a couple of months.

I don't think a dip will help very much. Paraguard does not list brook as a target. I would have either formalin or Ruby Red Pro on hand in case Brook appears. Ruby Red Pro does not contain formalin, but the manufacturer still recommends to product for Brook.

55 gallon QT, forgot to mention that, sorry. Lots of pipe work that the fish have found their places already and I’ve yet to see any issues.

Ruby red is a medication I have on hand as well, should Brook appear I’ll definitely dip.

 

[MiniBukta]

Paraguard wont do much if anything for given diseases hence its claims. For a dip, Ruby rally pro aerated is much safer and effective. for the quarantine, Go at least 21 days, preferably 30 and monitor coppersafe level in which with some of the fish you have which are touchy with copper. maintain treatment level 2.1-2.2 and try to keep it there. Copper starts to work at 2.0 or above

No Brook, dont concern yourself with formalin, at least for now

Shall do, thank you for the reply!

 

[Spare time]

Don't know the answer about copepods.

Question though, how big is your QT? That's a lot of fish for a small tank. Just want to be sure you have one large enough to handle the population for a couple of months.

I don't think a dip will help very much. Paraguard does not list brook as a target. I would have either formalin or Ruby Red Pro on hand in case Brook appears. Ruby Red Pro does not contain formalin, but the manufacturer still recommends to product for Brook.

Paraguard is an aldehyde and malachite green mix and I have treated brook with it (unless the brook just disappeared on its own and the fish all got better after a few had died, which is technically an alternative possibility)

 

[Spare time]

No - I do not believe they - or other inverts will do well in copper (Edit - The pods)

At the last lfs I worked at, copper power was kept between 2-2.5ppm in the fish only system and there were copepods

 

[MiniBukta]

At the last lfs I worked at, copper power was kept between 2-2.5ppm in the fish only system and there were copepods

Well that makes me happy for keeping this Ruby red fed, thank you!

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Well that makes me happy for keeping this Ruby red fed, thank you!

I agree, 2.25 ppm of coppersafe or copper power usually won't kill copepods. Dragonettes aren't really fond of copper, but there really isn't a good alternative for treating them.

 

[Spare time]

Well that makes me happy for keeping this Ruby red fed, thank you!

I have no clue what copepods they were though.

 

[MiniBukta]

I agree, 2.25 ppm of coppersafe or copper power usually won't kill copepods. Dragonettes aren't really fond of copper, but there really isn't a good alternative for treating them.

Thank you for your advice, I’ll do my best to keep copper on the low side but always above 2.0.

 

[MnFish1]

At the last lfs I worked at, copper power was kept between 2-2.5ppm in the fish only system and there were copepods

The issue is that the copper content in those fish would be sky high - you would not want those types of pods in your QT. Since there would be a concentrating of copper in the fish (assuming they ate the copepods) - That was the basis of my comment in part - however - I was not aware that a majority of copepods survive copper - always good to learn something !