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So I've had him for about a month now... he's been doing good but now he is started to lose his color and look brown also he has some kind up mucus coming off his skin in strings??
 

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I bought one about a year ago. he went first to quarantine where I saw the mucus on his body. I did not see any parasites but because I had some I treated the tank with "ICK ATTACK" by Kordon. they are picky eaters so I added some selcon and garlic extract to the pods I was feeding. he did heal up and is doing fine in the display tank now. hope this helps
 

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Is he eating? The photo isn't good enough, but looks like his belly is deflated, indicating he hasn't been eating.
First thing is to get him to eat, preferably fatty acids like Selcon, mentioned above. Start with live brine shrimp until he starts biting frozen mysis.

For how long is it happening? I had multiple healthy dragonets to change colors temporarily, usually to a faded coloration. It stays like this for a couple of hours and get back to its original color.
 
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I bought one about a year ago. he went first to quarantine where I saw the mucus on his body. I did not see any parasites but because I had some I treated the tank with "ICK ATTACK" by Kordon. they are picky eaters so I added some selcon and garlic extract to the pods I was feeding. he did heal up and is doing fine in the display tank now. hope this helps
Thank you I will treat the tank again for ick and parasites also get the garlic to help with my pods thank you!!
 
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Is he eating? The photo isn't good enough, but looks like his belly is deflated, indicating he hasn't been eating.
First thing is to get him to eat, preferably fatty acids like Selcon, mentioned above. Start with live brine shrimp until he starts biting frozen mysis.

For how long is it happening? I had multiple healthy dragonets to change colors temporarily, usually to a faded coloration. It stays like this for a couple of hours and get back to its original color.
When I first got him I got two (they were in separate tanks) the first one started having the mucus like this one and then with in two days he had so much mucus that it was coating his eyes and they were white? Which is why I am very concerned for this one. He was very skinny when I got him and it took him a few days before he would even look for food now he does go around the rocks and "peck" around but as far as knowing if he's actually getting food when he does that honestly I'm not 100% sure.
 

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In my experience, mandarin gobies are very sensitive to medications. That being said, mine will be treated for ich before ever going in my display tanks. I have WAY too many expensive and fragile fish to risk bringing in parasites. Especially after treating them all and going through the time and effort to prevent it thus far.

I would guess that a mandarin could handle 10 days of cupramine (slowly increased to .5 ppm) and then two or three transfers of the ttm method.

That's minimal copper exposure and should take care of velvet, ich, and several others. On transfer one and three I would treat with prazi. That adds flukes, black ich, and intestinal parasites.

Humblefish won't endorse this method yet, but it was his creation and it's genius. 10 days of copper, and one transfer is his suggestion. Which should work fine. I would do more than one transfer because I imagine many are using crappy tests for copper, aren't monitoring it correctly, and there are a lot of margins for error with copper use. Hypo even more so, and it does nothing for velvet.
 

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I would first try to get the fish to eat frozen food and pellets.

Putting it in a sterile quarantine , with medication, won't do him any good if he is starving. IMO, it will only accelerate his death.
Also, dragonets are very hardy when it comes to ich, they are usually the last ones to show white spots, because they have the ability to release the mucus to get rid of parasites. The photo also doesn't show any white spots.
 
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In my experience, mandarin gobies are very sensitive to medications. That being said, mine will be treated for ich before ever going in my display tanks. I have WAY too many expensive and fragile fish to risk bringing in parasites. Especially after treating them all and going through the time and effort to prevent it thus far.

I would guess that a mandarin could handle 10 days of cupramine (slowly increased to .5 ppm) and then two or three transfers of the ttm method.

That's minimal copper exposure and should take care of velvet, ich, and several others. On transfer one and three I would treat with prazi. That adds flukes, black ich, and intestinal parasites.

Humblefish won't endorse this method yet, but it was his creation and it's genius. 10 days of copper, and one transfer is his suggestion. Which should work fine. I would do more than one transfer because I imagine many are using crappy tests for copper, aren't monitoring it correctly, and there are a lot of margins for error with copper use. Hypo even more so, and it does nothing for velvet.
OK so this is what I have for parasites and ich since a smaller dragnet gave ich to my clownfish... should this be good enough? Also knowing they're sensitive should I use half of each dose because he is sensitive even though bottle says in prolonged cases I could even use 50-100% over the recommended dose
In my experience, mandarin gobies are very sensitive to medications. That being said, mine will be treated for ich before ever going in my display tanks. I have WAY too many expensive and fragile fish to risk bringing in parasites. Especially after treating them all and going through the time and effort to prevent it thus far.

I would guess that a mandarin could handle 10 days of cupramine (slowly increased to .5 ppm) and then two or three transfers of the ttm method.

That's minimal copper exposure and should take care of velvet, ich, and several others. On transfer one and three I would treat with prazi. That adds flukes, black ich, and intestinal parasites.

Humblefish won't endorse this method yet, but it was his creation and it's genius. 10 days of copper, and one transfer is his suggestion. Which should work fine. I would do more than one transfer because I imagine many are using crappy tests for copper, aren't monitoring it correctly, and there are a lot of margins for error with copper use. Hypo even more so, and it does nothing for velvet.
 
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In my experience, mandarin gobies are very sensitive to medications. That being said, mine will be treated for ich before ever going in my display tanks. I have WAY too many expensive and fragile fish to risk bringing in parasites. Especially after treating them all and going through the time and effort to prevent it thus far.

I would guess that a mandarin could handle 10 days of cupramine (slowly increased to .5 ppm) and then two or three transfers of the ttm method.

That's minimal copper exposure and should take care of velvet, ich, and several others. On transfer one and three I would treat with prazi. That adds flukes, black ich, and intestinal parasites.

Humblefish won't endorse this method yet, but it was his creation and it's genius. 10 days of copper, and one transfer is his suggestion. Which should work fine. I would do more than one transfer because I imagine many are using crappy tests for copper, aren't monitoring it correctly, and there are a lot of margins for error with copper use. Hypo even more so, and it does nothing for velvet.
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kind a want to use this because it is natural
 
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I would first try to get the fish to eat frozen food and pellets.

Putting it in a sterile quarantine , with medication, won't do him any good if he is starving. IMO, it will only accelerate his death.
Also, dragonets are very hardy when it comes to ich, they are usually the last ones to show white spots, because they have the ability to release the mucus to get rid of parasites. The photo also doesn't show any white spots.
Any ideas how to encourage them to start eating other food because I've dropped it right in front of him and he just looks and swims away...
 
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He is still swimming healthily and isn't hiding in the rocks not moving constantly but that brownish coloration is still there from last night
 

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That product does nothing, IMO. Humblefish is your best bet.

I wish I knew how to tag him
 
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Oh yeah also I was wondering is my fish aren't sick and I do a seven day treatment with the stuff in the pic will it hurt them? And out of curiosity wondering why I have to take my carbon filters out during this process and should I keep it out for the whole 7days or for a few hours after adding treatment then put them back in? ( sorry so many questions extremely new to this )
 

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Strange one this mandarins have a protective slime which normally prevents skin diseases as for training is it male or female ive found males aggressive enough to want to hunt and kill live brine shrimp hopefully you have enough pods to sustain him while you train he will peck at it sooner or later and once he knows its food you should be on the road to success
 
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It's been awhile since I've been able to get on here and I appreciate all the help! I haven't been in the marine aquarium thing for even a year yet but... he's still alive : ) I just recently move all my fish to a bigger aquarium (2 gallon to a 55gallon) included the mandarin and also I smaller female who was in the smaller tank with him.. they have plenty of food in this tank it's been up an running with out fish about 4 months but I still have the smaller tank that I'm going to restock with live foods. I have had both mandarins awhile now and they still don't want anything to do with pellets, flakes, frozen brine shrimp etc.
 

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Are you seeing the loss in color and excess mucous coming off at night or first thing in the morning? Mandarins secrete mucous at night and may look pale when the lights are off (or when they first come on.)
 

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Mandarins need alot of live pods to eat, one fish in a 55 gal with lots of rock is Ok two is pushing it. See if you can get live black worms for them.
 
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Are you seeing the loss in color and excess mucous coming off at night or first thing in the morning? Mandarins secrete mucous at night and may look pale when the lights are off (or when they first come on.)
Yeah its not during the day just either when I move them (streesed) or like you said when I turn my lights on or off.
 

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