Uranium an issue in my tank?

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Getting my ICP results back, my Uranium levels read 0.44ppm, when the norm is around 0.05 in NSW. Is this any cause for concern? I find it funny that of all possible impurities, I am accumulating Uranium the most. My fish will not mutuate, right? ;Smuggrin
 

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You might get some cool color morphs on those clams.


That is pretty odd though.
 

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FWIW, 0.05 ppm is also not the uranium level in NSW. It is more like 0.0033 ppm. The value they report is perhaps what they detected with their machine, but that does mean it is accurate. It might just be the detection limit.
 
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Icp analysis dot com ?

They have some issues, IMO.

That's correct. The store is about half an hour away from me, and they offer tests for 15 bucks a pop when you buy locally, so that is why I use them. I am weary of their results though, they always report my magnesium and calcium rather low compared to my test kit numbers.
 

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Lol. Is there a nuclear power plant nearby? Perhaps the groundwaters being contaminated. I agree with the above. This company is getting a poor reputation. Hopefully they figure out their problem, because the price is excellent.
 

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Nope didn't figure out their problems. I just got my test results back from my first ICP test and I'm reading 0.057 Uranium. Where dose that come from? Could it possibly be leaching from the dry rock? Also my Calcium levels are sky high @ 637.78ppm and I have a hard time believing that. I am high but I'm pretty sure not that high. Wouldn't I be seeing some issues with my corals if it were that high? Also #RandyHolmes you have said to me Iron is very hard to detect and I am reading 0.035 ppm and I only dose 1ml of Iron once a week into a 13.5 gallon aquarium. Maybe that's right? Idk. And also my Magnesium is @ 1539.99ppm... Whaaaat??? I know it's a lab test vs an at home test kit but my RedSea Magnesium puts me at 1360ppm and Calcium @500ppm. I've actually never dosed calcium and my tank has been up and running for 7 weeks. Kind of odd to me. But really I'm not too sure about these ICP tests.
 

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Nope didn't figure out their problems. I just got my test results back from my first ICP test and I'm reading 0.057 Uranium. Where dose that come from? Could it possibly be leaching from the dry rock? Also my Calcium levels are sky high @ 637.78ppm and I have a hard time believing that. I am high but I'm pretty sure not that high. Wouldn't I be seeing some issues with my corals if it were that high? Also #RandyHolmes you have said to me Iron is very hard to detect and I am reading 0.035 ppm and I only dose 1ml of Iron once a week into a 13.5 gallon aquarium. Maybe that's right? Idk. And also my Magnesium is @ 1539.99ppm... Whaaaat??? I know it's a lab test vs an at home test kit but my RedSea Magnesium puts me at 1360ppm and Calcium @500ppm. I've actually never dosed calcium and my tank has been up and running for 7 weeks. Kind of odd to me. But really I'm not too sure about these ICP tests.

Ignore the uranium result. I don't expect it is accurate.

Iron is likely from the dosing. You probably have more than needed, but I'm not sure it is hurting anything.

The calcium could be that hiogh and likely is not harming anything.

many folks have problems with Red Sea mag kit for whatever reason.

Double check your salinity. High salinity would boost calcium and magnesium.
 

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Ignore the uranium result. I don't expect it is accurate.

Iron is likely from the dosing. You probably have more than needed, but I'm not sure it is hurting anything.

The calcium could be that hiogh and likely is not harming anything.

many folks have problems with Red Sea mag kit for whatever reason.

Double check your salinity. High salinity would boost calcium and magnesium.
Salinity is good. Although my ICP results put me @ 40.57 PPT. I've calibrated my refractometer and tested right after. I come up at 33 PPT. When I take my water to my LFS they have a Hanna digital checker and my water comes in @ 1.024sg there. Not saying it's not possible but I would find it hard to believe that my salinity is high as I don't mix I buy pre-mixed saltwater. I'm going to test the water out of the container today and see what I'm putting in my tank but it is a reputable brand; Nutrisea. Should I use a different Mag test than RedSea? Do you suggest the Aqua Forest? As for the Iron I'm going to dose every 2 weeks, instead of every week.
 

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Salinity is good. Although my ICP results put me @ 40.57 PPT. I've calibrated my refractometer and tested right after. I come up at 33 PPT. When I take my water to my LFS they have a Hanna digital checker and my water comes in @ 1.024sg there. Not saying it's not possible but I would find it hard to believe that my salinity is high as I don't mix I buy pre-mixed saltwater. I'm going to test the water out of the container today and see what I'm putting in my tank but it is a reputable brand; Nutrisea. Should I use a different Mag test than RedSea? Do you suggest the Aqua Forest? As for the Iron I'm going to dose every 2 weeks, instead of every week.

If you don't believe the ICP salinity (I would), then I'm not sure why you would believe the ICP calcium level. :)
 

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Lol No I don't believe it. I just went to the LFS and salinity came in @ 1.024 and Calcium @ 460ppm and that's near what I test as well. The only thing I can think is in the week it took to get to the lab in the mail I got evaporation. I bought another ICP test too and I'm gonna send it out today and see if it comes out any different. If not IMO ICP tests are inaccurate and are not worth it.
 
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Lol No I don't believe it. I just went to the LFS and salinity came in @ 1.024 and Calcium @ 460ppm and that's near what I test as well. The only thing I can think is in the week it took to get to the lab in the mail I got evaporation. I bought another ICP test too and I'm gonna send it out today and see if it comes out any different. If not IMO ICP tests are inaccurate and are not worth it.

Which company? I do not have confidence in all of them.
 

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Which company? I do not have confidence in all of them.
I thought I had read you said somewhere that you didn't. The ICP-Analysis.com one. Is there one you recommend? I like having the ability to check all those parameters every month or so. It's nice to know what's in my tank past what I can test for.
 

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I thought I had read you said somewhere that you didn't. The ICP-Analysis.com one. Is there one you recommend? I like having the ability to check all those parameters every month or so. It's nice to know what's in my tank past what I can test for.

That is the one I do not recommend. I do not have anything to really distinguish the others, but Triton seems a reasonable choice based on the fact that they published things like their limit of detection and calibration data.
 

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That is the one I do not recommend. I do not have anything to really distinguish the others, but Triton seems a reasonable choice based on the fact that they published things like their limit of detection and calibration data.
Great, thanks for sharing Randy. I'll check out Triton next time I do a test.
 

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Any higher and the FBI will be knocking on your door. That's really odd. Did you get your RODI water tested too? I like the ATI ICP kit cause they include a seperate vile for your RODI water plus pre-paid postage.
 

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That is the one I do not recommend. I do not have anything to really distinguish the others, but Triton seems a reasonable choice based on the fact that they published things like their limit of detection and calibration data.

Randy if you could let me know what you would need for this, I would like to be on your recommended list as well.

Is this not enough information?


Major elements:

ElementLLODULOQcorrelation coefficient
Boron0.01 – 0.02 mg/l10 mg/l0.99971
Bromine0.11 – 0.20 mg/l100 mg/l0.99931
Calcium9.36 mg/l600 mg/l0.99996
Chloride8960 mg/l26900 mg/l0.99864
Fluoride0.01 0.03 mg/l10 mg/l0.99864
Potassium1.42 mg/l600 mg/l0.99985
Magnesium10 mg/l2000 mg/l0.99961
Sodium5000 mg/l15000 mg/l0.99998
Sulfur408 mg/l1300 mg/l0.99938


Nutrients:

ElementLLODULOQcorrelation coefficient
Nitrate0.01 – 0.03 mg/l200 mg/l0.99961
Phosphorous0.07 – 0.2 µg/l360 µg/l0.99999


Trace elements:

ElementLLODULOQcorrelation coefficient
Aluminium0.08 – 0.25 µg/l240 µg/l0.99996
Antimony2,53 – 4,64 µg/l240 µg/l0.99996
Arsenic0,13 – 0,24 µg/l240 µg/l0.99993
Barium0,09 – 0,22 µg/l240 µg/l0.99994
Beryllium0,03 – 0,04 µg/l240 µg/l0.99999
Bismuth0,54 – 1,54 µg/l240 µg/l0.99988
Lead1.38 – 1.67 µg/l288 µg/l0.99993
Cadmium0.09 – 0.14 µg/l240 µg/l0.99997
Chromium0.08 – 0.15 µg/l240 µg/l0.99996
Cobalt0.15 – 0.47 µg/l240 µg/l0.99994
Iron0.43 – 0.83 µg/l240 µg/l0.99992
Jodine3.01 – 6.24 µg/l396 µg/l0.99964
Copper0.63 – 0.74 µg/l240 µg/l0.99997
Lanthanium4.03 – 6.31 µg/l36.0 µg/l0.99944
Lithium0.03 – 0.26 µg/l240 µg/l0.99996
Manganese0.03 – 0.04 µg/l240 µg/l0.99996
Molybdenum0.36 – 0.52 µg/l288 µg/l0.99999
Nickel0.41 – 0.46 µg/l288 µg/l0.99994
Mercury0.46 – 1.12 µg/l142 µg/l0.99998
Phosphorous0.07 – 0.25 µg/l360 µg/l0.99999
Selenic3.95 – 6.51 µg/l240 µg/l0.99999
Silicon0.88 – 1.27 µg/l1200 µg/l0.99951
Thallium4.17 – 7.22 µg/l240 µg/l0.99973
Titanium0.28 – 0.54 µg/l48 µg/l0.99997
Vanadium0.27 – 0.59 µg/l240 µg/l0.99998
Tungsten1.82 – 3.74 µg/l36.0 µg/l0.99928
Zinc0.07 – 0.35 µg/l240 µg/l0.99997
Tin0.57 – 0.88 µg/l192 µg/l0.99995


LLOD = lowest limit of detection
ULOQ = upper limit of quantification
 

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