Was the potency of Triton Core7 changed from 2017 to 2019?

[TheHarold]

I want to recap what I’ve already said.

I ran Triton in 2017 and had fantastic results. My animals were happy. I think it’s a great product. I’m not here to make Triton look bad, but if I’m telling the truth and that is the outcome I am sorry. Of course I’m a little frustrated because it’s been hard to get an answer, but I don’t want to argue or hurt anybody’s feelings.

When I first ran Core7 It was on a larger system. That could be why I had success in 2017 and possibly why I was unsuccessful this time around.

All I wanted to know was the strength/potency of the Alkalinity component and trace elements if the information was available (because somebody said it was). We already looked and have not found anything yet. This thread has been up for about 3 months and I have not seen any “official” numbers posted.

Knowing these numbers will give me a better understanding of how things went south and also help me in the future. I think it’s smart to ask for them. I do not know if I received a “bad batch” or if the Core7 was simply too strong for my 75/G system despite following the 2mL per 100L (26.4 gallons) starting dose and making the appropriate corrections 2x daily as I saw the levels rising. This was not enough and despite my correction efforts the tank continued to decline. It was just too late. This is why I requested the strength of the product. Only for better understanding.

I’m really sorry if it seems like I’m being demanding. I have the other information from previous 2-parts I’ve tried in the past. I’m just waiting on the numbers for Triton.


BRS 1,900 meq/L of alkalinity or 5,300 dKH just like Randy's recipe below.
Randy's DIY recipe #1 is 1,900 meq/L of alkalinity or 5,300 dKH.
ESV is 2800 meq/Liter (7840 dKH)
Tropic Marin ALL-FOR-REEF- 500 mL contains 2,800 carbonate hardness
Tropic Marin Carbo-Calcium- 1,000 mL contains 5,600 carbonate hardness

Did you not see Juliens response?

"The alkalinity strength of Core7 is 19500 dKH / (4 x 1L) set."

I will do the math for you; 4875dKh/L set.

 

[Reefahholic]

Did you not see Juliens response?

"The alkalinity strength of Core7 is 19500 dKH / (4 x 1L) set."

I will do the math for you; 4875dKh/L set.

No I didn’t. Thanks @TheHarold! Where did he post this? Looks like he joined 07/31/19. I was looking for the numbers around 05/08/19 when I started the Core7. I haven’t seen anything since then. Can you leave a link?

 

[Reefahholic]

Did you not see Juliens response?

"The alkalinity strength of Core7 is 19500 dKH / (4 x 1L) set."

I will do the math for you; 4875dKh/L set.

Bottle Contents:

Number 1 = Magnesium + Traces
Number 2 = Calcium + Traces
Number 3A = Alkalinity + Traces
Number 3B = Alkalinity + Traces

@TheHarold since the Alkalinity is only in 2 bottles (3A and 3B) would that be a typo above to multiple (4 x 1L) set.?

 

[TheHarold]

No I didn’t. Thanks @TheHarold! Where did he post this? Looks like he joined 07/31/19. I was looking for the numbers around 05/08/19 when I started the Core7. I haven’t seen anything since then. Can you leave a link?

Post #17 in this thread, 6:55am EST.

The alkalinity strength of Core7 is 19500 dKH / (4 x 1L) set.

 

[TheHarold]

Bottle Contents:

Number 1 = Magnesium + Traces
Number 2 = Calcium + Traces
Number 3A = Alkalinity + Traces
Number 3B = Alkalinity + Traces

@TheHarold since the Alkalinity is only in 2 bottles (3A and 3B) would that be a typo above to multiple (4 x 1L) set.?

He said "19500 dKH / (4 x 1L) set."

So if you are dosing all 4 parts equally, it would be 4875dKh/total liters solution (1+2+3A+3B) dosed.

If you are just dosing part 3A and 3B, it would be 9750dKh/total liters dosed.

He did not mention if 3A and 3B have the same alkalinity concentration, so I cannot assume that they do.

 

[Reefahholic]

Post #17 in this thread, 6:55am EST.

I apparently missed that. I don't know how because I been looking for that and waiting on it a long time.

 

[Reefahholic]

He said "19500 dKH / (4 x 1L) set."

So if you are dosing all 4 parts equally, it would be 4875dKh/total liters dosed.

If you are just dosing part 3A and 3B, it would be 9750dKh/total liters dosed.

He did not mention if 3A and 3B have the same alkalinity concentration, so I cannot assume that they do.

Maybe he can clear it up because I do not understand. If the Alkalinity components are in 3A & 3B only, It would not change the dKH if you were dosing all four bottles are only the two bottles with 3A & 3B. The same amount of Alkalinity will be going into the system regardless. Dividing by 4 makes no sense to me. I’m really trying to understand though.

 

[TheHarold]

Maybe he can clear it up because I do not understand. If the Alkalinity components are in 3A & 3B only, It would not change the dKH if you were dosing all four bottles are only the two bottles with 3A & 3B. The same amount of Alkalinity will be going into the system regardless. Dividing by 4 makes no sense to me. I’m really trying to understand though.

I dont understand where you are not following. Yes, he gave "19500 per 4L set", because the sets come in 4L. You could also say 19500 in parts 3A and 3B. That is interchangeable.

19500 in your 2 liters of 3A+3B. Or how I gave it, 4875dKh/total liters of part 3 dosed. (Add A and B)

 

[Reefahholic]

I dont understand where you are not following. Yes, he gave "19500 per 4L set", because the sets come in 4L. You could also say 19500 in parts 3A and 3B. That is interchangeable.

19500 in your 2 liters of 3A+3B. Or how I gave it, 4875dKh/total liters of part 3 dosed. (Add A and B)

Ok, I think I understand this now. He gave the number assuming I thought the Alkalinity was in all 4 bottles.

So if we’re taking 19500 per the 2 liters of 3A & 3B (The bottles containing Alkalinity) then that would be 9750 per each bottle that contains Alkalinity?

If we’re taking 19500 per all four bottles then It would be 4875 per each 1 liter bottle which doesn’t make sense because 2 of the 4 do not have Alkalinity in them. So it is confusing for me that it was listed like that.

If that was the case...each bottle would have
4,875 per bottle. If only 19500 per the 2 with Alkalinity then it should be 9750 per bottle.

 

[TheHarold]

. If only 19500 per the 2 with Alkalinity then it should be 9750 per bottle.

And I said " 4875dKh/total liters of part 3 dosed. (Add A and B)"

If you added both bottles, so 2 liters, that is 9750. Just different phrasing

 

[Reefahholic]

And I said " 4875dKh/total liters of part 3 dosed. (Add A and B)"

If you added both bottles, so 2 liters, that is 9750. Just different phrasing

Sorry Harold...I got it now. I was confused. We can only progress in reefing if we fully understand our failures. I wanted to be clear and precise. Now that I know the exact amount per liter. I can go back and reflect on the other 2-part products I’ve dosed and compare the potency of them all.

Thank you for helping me understand and I appreciate all those who responded. My apologies if I may have been a little distressed. I’m man enough to say I’m sorry. I have no ill will or hate for Triton and now that I know the full details, I’d be willing to try it again on a larger system.

 

[Julian@Triton]

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