Where to start??

Lots of great advice here. And they echo my...

Would you recommend curing in the Brute vs in the tank? If so, why?
Aahhh ok, then i definitley have some researching to do on that. Yeah thats exactly what im trying to avoid as well.
Awesome! Thank you!
Any recommendations on salt and sand?
 
Lots of great advice here. And they echo my...

Would you recommend curing in the Brute vs in the tank? If so, why?
Aahhh ok, then i definitley have some researching to do on that. Yeah thats exactly what im trying to avoid as well.
Awesome! Thank you!
Any recommendations on salt and sand?
Mainly because you can start that now and continue to prepare your tank for launch. And while ambient light won't induce algae growth to any great extent, you can basically block out almost all light in a Brute. So I guess my reasoning is two-fold.

With salt, it's already suggested you start with a mix that conforms to what kind of parameter levels you want in the tank. For me, I'm going to run high(er) ALK, so the salt I choose will have a mix that gives me a level of 11 plus or minus. The Ca and Mg levels I'll adjust on my own.

As for sand? I haven't looked into that too much, so I cannot give you a specific idea. The only recommendation I have is to NOT go with extremely fine sand. It gets all over the place and can be hard on powerheads (such as your return(s)). LOL, sand needs to be kept at the bottom of the tank!

Another couple things you may want to consider. Two MAJOR parts of maintaining your ecosystem are the return pump(s) and heater(s). With my tank, I'll have two of each. If one fails, the other can handle the workload (albeit at lesser efficiency) until the issue can be remedied. With heaters, I would suggest a heater with a Titanium Body. It acts as a ground probe as well. But ONLY if it has a three-prong plug. With return pumps, I'm doubling up on that to avoid any complications inherent in a complete cessation of water recirculation. AND I'm gonna have an extra of each on standby. That last part is overkill, but that's how I roll.
 
Lots of great advice here. And they echo my...

Would you recommend curing in the Brute vs in the tank? If so, why?
Aahhh ok, then i definitley have some researching to do on that. Yeah thats exactly what im trying to avoid as well.
Awesome! Thank you!
Any recommendations on salt and sand?
Mainly because you can start that now and continue to prepare your tank for launch. And while ambient light won't induce algae growth to any great extent, you can basically block out almost all light in a Brute. So I guess my reasoning is two-fold.

With salt, it's already suggested you start with a mix that conforms to what kind of parameter levels you want in the tank. For me, I'm going to run high(er) ALK, so the salt I choose will have a mix that gives me a level of 11 plus or minus. The Ca and Mg levels I'll adjust on my own.

As for sand? I haven't looked into that too much, so I cannot give you a specific idea. The only recommendation I have is to NOT go with extremely fine sand. It gets all over the place and can be hard on powerheads (such as your return(s)). LOL, sand needs to be kept at the bottom of the tank!

Another couple things you may want to consider. Two MAJOR parts of maintaining your ecosystem are the return pump(s) and heater(s). With my tank, I'll have two of each. If one fails, the other can handle the workload (albeit at lesser efficiency) until the issue can be remedied. With heaters, I would suggest a heater with a Titanium Body. It acts as a ground probe as well. But ONLY if it has a three-prong plug. With return pumps, I'm doubling up on that to avoid any complications inherent in a complete cessation of water recirculation. AND I'm gonna have an extra of each on standby. That last part is overkill, but that's how I roll.


Ahh ok then! Makes sense! Ill go get a Brute, heater, and pump. Im assuming RODI water/salt mixture need to be used in the Brute with the rocks?
Oh gosh, how do i know what parameters im wanting??? I have no clue lol i thought there was like an average of parameters that a lot of people use or that can be used for a wide variety of fish/coral.
Yuuppp, makes sense as well!
Yes! Definitely plan on having 2 of each! I will probably have a backup of each as well since i always have stock of everything i own haha.
 
Mindset > Tank > RO/DI + Salt > Salinity Tester > Pump > Rocks/Sand (live preferred) /> Bacteria + Pods > Time > ATO > Fish + Foods > Lights > More rocks :p > Skimmer > UV > Param Tester > Corals > Doser > Surf Scrubber / Phyto Reactor > More Fish More Corals > More Fun
 
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Mindset > Tank > RO/DI + Salt > Salinity Tester > Pump > Rocks/Sand (live preferred) /> Bacteria + Pods > Time > ATO > Fish + Foods > Lights > More rocks :P > Skimmer > UV > Param Tester > Corals > Doser > Phyto Reactor > More Fish More Corals > More Fun


Awesome! Thank you!
 
Since i will be going the Brute way, does size matter? Like my display is 55gallon, so should i get a 55gallon brute or is a smaller 30ish gallong fine??,
 
My opinion differs.. from my experience.

I vote for setting it up fully including with lights on. Let the ugly stage run it's course ( if at all) untill you get the balanced biological diversity in your system your looking for. I would put in a bacteria starter. Like microbacter 7. Toss in an extremely hardy fish. Or some snails, copepods etc. And feed the tank / system to establish a solid bacteria population/ organic balance.

Then wait the 8 months before putting in coral.

I have seen folks do everything and still get the ugly stage. If your willing to wait, get it started now! Rather than getting it while you have coral ready and you think you can skip it. etc.


Most of the issues people run into is having coral then hitting the ugly stages before the tank matures.

If you have nothing but clean up crews and a hardy fish.. who cares let it grow ugly. Drive it out. Then clean it. It will eventually balance out to a beautiful system.

I have seen far to many folks wait 6 months to turn lights on just to then have the system jump right into the uglies.
Popular tank being Ryan from BRS havkng a video on his 300 at his home, he could not beat the ugly. Hence following all the typical laid out suggestions. A Good watch.


Lots of folks setup with 0 wait time and never once see the ugly.


Good luck!!
 
My opinion differs.. from my experience.

I vote for setting it up fully including with lights on. Let the ugly stage run it's course ( if at all) untill you get the balanced biological diversity in your system your looking for. I would put in a bacteria starter. Like microbacter 7. Toss in an extremely hardy fish. Or some snails, copepods etc. And feed the tank / system to establish a solid bacteria population/ organic balance.

Then wait the 8 months before putting in coral.

I have seen folks do everything and still get the ugly stage. If your willing to wait, get it started now! Rather than getting it while you have coral ready and you think you can skip it. etc.


Most of the issues people run into is having coral then hitting the ugly stages before the tank matures.

If you have nothing but clean up crews and a hardy fish.. who cares let it grow ugly. Drive it out. Then clean it. It will eventually balance out to a beautiful system.

I have seen far to many folks wait 6 months to turn lights on just to then have the system jump right into the uglies.
Popular tank being Ryan from BRS havkng a video on his 300 at his home, he could not beat the ugly. Hence following all the typical laid out suggestions. A Good watch.


Lots of folks setup with 0 wait time and never once see the ugly.


Good luck!!
This has always been my approach, setting everything up and letting it run its course
 
My opinion differs.. from my experience.

I vote for setting it up fully including with lights on. Let the ugly stage run it's course ( if at all) untill you get the balanced biological diversity in your system your looking for. I would put in a bacteria starter. Like microbacter 7. Toss in an extremely hardy fish. Or some snails, copepods etc. And feed the tank / system to establish a solid bacteria population/ organic balance.

Then wait the 8 months before putting in coral.

I have seen folks do everything and still get the ugly stage. If your willing to wait, get it started now! Rather than getting it while you have coral ready and you think you can skip it. etc.


Most of the issues people run into is having coral then hitting the ugly stages before the tank matures.

If you have nothing but clean up crews and a hardy fish.. who cares let it grow ugly. Drive it out. Then clean it. It will eventually balance out to a beautiful system.

I have seen far to many folks wait 6 months to turn lights on just to then have the system jump right into the uglies.
Popular tank being Ryan from BRS havkng a video on his 300 at his home, he could not beat the ugly. Hence following all the typical laid out suggestions. A Good watch.


Lots of folks setup with 0 wait time and never once see the ugly.


Good luck!!
This is what i honestly was thinking of doing before the Brute idea was brought up. SO in your opinion, what all should I get, in order, to be able to start in the tank without fish/coral?? And if you know of salt levels etc. that you recommend to start with, please advise on that as i have no clue of those levels since I thought there were like a common/average set of levels for most tanks.
 

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