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Not that I am aware of.@Terence Was fusion affected in the Cloudfare leak a few months back?
But Apex fusion does access ones network, if you can change settings in Apex fusion it then has to access the network to send commands to the Apex device that is behind the router.
And I do think that my home address argument makes sense, so what if a hacker can scan computers, he then has a list of millions of IP address with available ports and all he sees is that he can access port 80 on my network, but then what? He connects to that port and finds a web interface to a device, so what? He then has to spend hours/days figuring out what the device is, how it operates, and if it has any known security holes. If it does have known security holes he can then use a known attack against the controller, but then what? He has access to the controller and that is it.
If it doesn't have known issues or this hacker wants to use the controller to gain access to the rest of the network then this requires highly specialised skills. And then the question to ask is why would anyone bother? If I am a hacker that can gain access to devices with no published security holes, find novel security holes, and then exploit that device to gain access to the wider network then what am I doing using these highly marketable skills to bother some random person with a aquarium controller? It doesn't make any logical sense. I could be earning $100's a hour with those skills, or attacking high value targets instead.
It is harder to do. There are more places for a customer to get it wrong such as selecting inadvertently - "allow my router to be configured remotely"
You are right that IoT on its own is no guarantee of security. However I WILL make the claim that in addition to being easier to configure, our Apex Fusion cloud method IS more secure than having the average user attempt to do port forwarding on an unknown router and then leave one or more ports open for access to resource(s) inside their home firewall or select options that may make them vulnerable.
And, FWIW, I too have a Computer Science degree - and have worked in IT since 1984. [emoji6]
I think that puts you in the 27% that wasn't going to buy anyway.These marketing posts masquerading as “I just want to be nice and share some info” posts from you @Terence continue to turn me off from Neptune’s products. I’d encourage you to stick with talking about your own products instead of making unsubtle, repeated jabs at your competitors.
EDIT: Deleted comment. No need for you and I to have a disagreement. My comment wasn’t directed at you.I think that puts you in the 27% that wasn't going to buy anyway.
My point is that you always frame these “helpful” posts as us versus them. None of the others do that. This isn’t politics, you don’t have to throw mud.Guys, most customers are not engineers. They do not understand these things when looking at products and making a buying decision. Most customers will not be able to, on their own, do port forwarding, dynamic DNS, etc. This is not speculation. This is experience from us walking thousands of customers through this process - with innumerable challenges. Yes, thousands. On their own, while attempting to do these things, many will make mistakes and possibly compromise security. Furthermore, having open inbound ports on your router does, in some circumstances, open your home network up to vulnerabilities for a myriad of reasons.
@TheEngineer, I am intentionally not singling out any competing product. I am instead taking to task using this methodology the sole way to obtain external access to an aquarium controller. And I am saying why I believe we do it better. Many average customers do not even know there is a difference. Prospective customers can then use that information - and do their own additional research to help them come to a more informed buying decision.
My post IS meant to be informative (and create discussion) and I hope that it makes those seeking to make an informed purchasing decision take a deeper look at this particular topic. Because we feel it does matter.
I think that puts you in the 27% that wasn't going to buy anyway.
Guys, most customers are not engineers. They do not understand these things when looking at products and making a buying decision. Most customers will not be able to, on their own, do port forwarding, dynamic DNS, etc. This is not speculation. This is experience from us walking thousands of customers through this process - with innumerable challenges. Yes, thousands. On their own, while attempting to do these things, many will make mistakes and possibly compromise security. Furthermore, having open inbound ports on your router does, in some circumstances, open your home network up to vulnerabilities for a myriad of reasons.
@TheEngineer, I am intentionally not singling out any competing product. I am instead taking to task using this methodology the sole way to obtain external access to an aquarium controller. And I am saying why I believe we do it better. Many average customers do not even know there is a difference. Prospective customers can then use that information - and do their own additional research to help them come to a more informed buying decision.
My post IS meant to be informative (and create discussion) and I hope that it makes those seeking to make an informed purchasing decision take a deeper look at this particular topic. Because we feel it does matter.
I actually agree with @TheEngineer
I think the informed decision should be on quality of components, and I see more and more people on my local forum having their Apex brains fail and crash their tank.
I don't own a aquarium controller and was deciding between attempting to build one myself (something I have no experience...), ?
Perhaps it's coincedential because, if i am not mistaken....port 80 was indeed how the casino was hacked. (It's been a few weeks since i read about it so i could be mistaken).I actually agree with @TheEngineer, it's too coincidental that he makes this post just as a competitor releases an app where you use port 80 to access it and says to make an informed decision on purchasing. Hmm..... don't really see other companies taking veiled jabs at them, but I guess their product quality seem to speak for themselves
I think the informed decision should be on quality of components, and I see more and more people on my local forum having their Apex brains fail and crash their tank.
Perhaps it's coincedential because, if i am not mistaken....port 80 was indeed how the casino was hacked. (It's been a few weeks since i read about it so i could be mistaken).
I for one use the latest most secure home router and protocols i can....call me crazy.