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He said he can't trench through the floor, so I assume its a concrete slab foundationDo you have a basement?
No fumes,only liquid all around the house.That makes sense. Only concern left- Chemical fumes from exterminator
Ok.Just because something is "possible", doesn't mean it should be done. Imo this plan has disaster written all over it. Sorry to be a buzz kill.
200g sounds like alot of weight for a attic.. but what if both, the displays sump and garage sump, pumped into a smaller tank in the attic. That tank having dual corner overflows would drain back into display and garage sumpsIf the attic floor can support it and it doesn’t get too hot, I would just put it in the attic. Then you could pump up from the 75 into the attic and then let it drain back into the 75. That’s the safest way to pull this caper off.
Won't work you will end up with more water in display or garage sump same as trying to match 2 pumps exactly...That tank having dual corner overflows would drain back into display and garage sumps
200g sounds like alot of weight for a attic.. but what if both, the displays sump and garage sump, pumped into a smaller tank in the attic. That tank having dual corner overflows would drain back into display and garage sumps
If the tank is in the middle of living room, how will you run pipes to the attic?I wish,tank is on the middle of living room.
If it can be done i’m open to it.
Attic space is big and have platform for easy walk no need to crawl is very hight
Foam insulation on roof.
Sump underneath tank will be just for pumping water out of it.If the tank is in the middle of living room, how will you run pipes to the attic?
Your idea can be done. You are certainly adding more things that can fail. I’m not sure getting the two pumps to push almost the exact same amount of water is that difficult. It can be done. Also as long as the two sumps are the same size and neither is filled more than 40% you should be fine if either pump fails.
What I’m not understanding is what are you really accomplishing by doing this? You said you want to move the sump to the garage to have the tank in the house and everything else in the garage? But you will still have a sump, and pump, and plumbing under the tank. All you would be getting rid of (under the tank) is a skimmer, heater, and maybe a couple of other random pieces of equipment?
A lot of people have basement sumps, or fish room sumps and they are very practical. They reduce noise, provide more working room, in most cases add water volume, also allow for other equipment like electrical and controllers, etc to be kept under the display in a less damp/humid environment. But in your situation you are going from having a display tank and under tank sump to having two sumps, one in the garage and one STILL under the tank. You aren’t gaining anything of value
The problem is that they would need to push the EXACT same amount of water, or you will have an imbalance over time.I’m not sure getting the two pumps to push almost the exact same amount of water is that difficult. It can be done.
Good point.I would definitely not attempt to flow match pumps, or rely on a siphon pipe that is endlessly long and high to match a pressurized return. Even with a check valve if something fails that’s a lot of water to backflow to one side or the other.
The way I see this as safe and possible is to put a small sump below the tank as you described, then another reservoir IN the attic. It could be small also, but will essentially act as the exchange site for the water from the display and the remote sump. This attic reservoir would ideally be sealed so no dust gets in, insulated, and vented so it’s not pressurized. To make the system work you would have a pump going from your display sump to the attic, and a drain line returning via gravity, and then another pump going from your equipment sump in the garage to the attic, and a drain line returning via gravity. The water just exchanges and mixes in the attic sealed container. It’s not efficient but it would work safely.
-Ed
While this may work, it would be horribly inefficient. There is a chance that the reservoir in the attic would just return the previously pumped water to their respective starting places. I’m sure some of the actual display tank water would make it to the garage sump, however it would be a small percentage. If the filtration and heaters etc are in the garage there is a chance that they would just be recirculating 50-70% of their own respective sumps water.I would definitely not attempt to flow match pumps, or rely on a siphon pipe that is endlessly long and high to match a pressurized return. Even with a check valve if something fails that’s a lot of water to backflow to one side or the other.
The way I see this as safe and possible is to put a small sump below the tank as you described, then another reservoir IN the attic. It could be small also, but will essentially act as the exchange site for the water from the display and the remote sump. This attic reservoir would ideally be sealed so no dust gets in, insulated, and vented so it’s not pressurized. To make the system work you would have a pump going from your display sump to the attic, and a drain line returning via gravity, and then another pump going from your equipment sump in the garage to the attic, and a drain line returning via gravity. The water just exchanges and mixes in the attic sealed container. It’s not efficient but it would work safely.
-Ed
Ok.
Help me understand and correct me if i’m wrong.
If i have underneath the tank a sump 75g and i pump from that one to another one in garage same size and from garage to tank.
Even if pumps fail it won’t overflow sumps.the return lines on tank are very high very few gallons goes back to sump underneath when i shut down pump now.
Lets say pump in garage fails to return i will have sump drilled with aux drain if water goes above line it will drain out of the house.