Wait that's you? Sweet! I'll be by again tomorrow!Thanks a lot for this wonderful thread! Hope to see you all on our booth tomorrow at MACNA.
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Wait that's you? Sweet! I'll be by again tomorrow!Thanks a lot for this wonderful thread! Hope to see you all on our booth tomorrow at MACNA.
What actually happened to Mindstream? This is a very neat product, hopefully I'll be able to grab one.
There's a pipe that should run to a waste container or drain.Thanks! That also then kind of leads to my next question. Would I be correct in assuming that the unit would require some kind of waste collection that the old tests would be flushed to and the water that was cycled through to flush the system as you say? Or does it have its own internal collection cup that would need to be emptied? And finally, you laid out the costs for the units, but how much would reagent refills run?
Most welcome! And yes, it was me on the booth [emoji6]Wait that's you? Sweet! I'll be by again tomorrow!
Mindstream was at MACNA as well. There were three different automated testing machines/ products presented, that I saw at least. I don't think there is any doubt we are close.
After the Kickstarter campaign came up short they started another round of funding from other sources and received their full amount. I spoke to all three presenters and of the three, Mindstream seems the most efficient and affordable option if it finally makes it to production. (That's my non scientific opinion at least). There were upside and downside to all of them but cool none the less.
With some quick programming on an APEX DOS and a mini fridge, you can have yourself a frozen food feeder in about an hour.Not really the type I had in mind. But it's a start.
Alkalinity is the hard one...
Test kits yes, but difficult to automate. There really isn't anything available to hobbyists to continually monitor alkalinity like pH for example. I agree with you on the others, it would appear that real time alk monitoring at a reasonable cost is pretty elusive and tricky though.Why do you say that? From my understanding, with typical test kits, there's generally less interference with alkalinity than a few of the others such as potassium, calcium and magnesium.
I stopped by the midstream booth as well. That's the kind of testing I want. ;p put it in the tank and get readouts to my phone... hopefully they get it going and it's accurate. Seemed pretty cool but I definitely won't buy one until it's used and tested by other R2R's I've been screwed too many times buying a "new" product. Aka PFO Solaris.... ugh thanks for nothing...Mindstream was at MACNA as well. There were three different automated testing machines/ products presented, that I saw at least. I don't think there is any doubt we are close.
After the Kickstarter campaign came up short they started another round of funding from other sources and received their full amount. I spoke to all three presenters and of the three, Mindstream seems the most efficient and affordable option if it finally makes it to production. (That's my non scientific opinion at least). There were upside and downside to all of them but cool none the less.
Test kits yes, but difficult to automate. There really isn't anything available to hobbyists to continually monitor alkalinity like pH for example. I agree with you on the others, it would appear that real time alk monitoring at a reasonable cost is pretty elusive and tricky though.
You are correct. But in addition to the testing, it does upload your results to cloud and allow you to chart trends, etc.But isn't the product in question just automated testing? It's not a monitor from my understanding...
Mindsream is/was venture backed too. That just means someone was convinced enough to put money down. That could be $100 honestly and you can say venture backed. Not poo pooing just stating it isn't something to use for judging the validity of a product or company. Saying your venture backed is likely just an effort to look more "real".Their website states they are venture backed. I'm hoping that means this is coming to market in the not so distant future.
I think the price question is ultimately about what it's worth to each person. Most "hardcore" hobbyists have thousands of dollars invested in livestock, and they don't bat an eye at that. ...but then we (me included) want to complain about spending a few hundred dollars on tools to protect those same inhabitants. In my opinion, something like this that will be extremely helpful in safeguarding our tank inhabitants (coral, fish, and inverts) is well-worth the money. IME most hobbyists don't test nearly as often as they should. This device would enable a hobbyist to test their parameters at the click of a button on their phone or tablet. It's definitely a luxury, but hopefully a luxury that will lead many to more successful reef-keeping.All sounds great until pricing. When these things get down to pricing that "everyday" hobbyists can afford please let me know. . . In other words mass production and distribution and good customer service and warranty. Until then it's all a pipe dream