Trident FAQ (official)

[Thales]

I realize that in order for the Trident to run "properly" it needs to do 4 Alk, 2 Cal, and 2 Mag, tests a da
That is why I said they should have went back to the drawing board.

Nah. I am thrilled to have the instrument, and was thrilled when I got it, it has made a huge difference. If another version is developed, that will also be great. I certainly am happy I didn't have to wait for it and that it is available as is.

Did anyone test their Alk 4 times a day; Cal 2 times a day, and Mag 2 times a day - before getting the Trident?

That's kinda the point though, this is doing something people don't do on their own. I had a prototype for a year or two and it only did Alk (I was running it 4 or 6 times a day), and that made a big difference. Having the Trident control the CaRx is fabulous and 4 times a day seems perfect for stability. Less would be less stable. I don't care so much about the Ca and Mg because those parameters are not volatile, but it is nice to have those numbers. The cost of reagents is small and well worth it.

I think what happens with tech like this is that everyone thinks they need it. They don't. Personally, I would hate to run a SPS tank without one.

 

[canadianeh]

Those of you who runs the minimum daily test only. How big is your waste container and how often it gets full?

 

[User1]

Those of you who runs the minimum daily test only. How big is your waste container and how often it gets full?

I run the lowest tests @ 4/2/2 and use a 375 ml Voss Glass Water bottle. It lasts about a week I guess? Maybe more - but I empty it at least once a week before I forget and need the reminder to warn me. I one one laying around that I was using to dose something. It has a 1/4 or 1/8" John Guest valve on it for the tubing. I just put the waste line in there and let it go. Works well for me.

Not really sure I guess because I've never run into it being full...

 

[TheHarold]

Those of you who runs the minimum daily test only. How big is your waste container and how often it gets full?

I use a 2 liter container, an old 2-part bottle. Empty it monthly when I change regent A (or all).

"The exact amount of waste varies depending on your parameter levels and the amount of reagent the Trident uses. On average a 1L waste container would only need to be emptied every 2 weeks or so"

https://www.neptunesystems.com/getstarted/trident/faq/

 

[canadianeh]

Can Trident be placed higher than the sump as long as the lines are not extended or cut?

I am planning to add a shelf with a bracket inside my tank cabinet and place Trident on shelf. It is a bit higher than the sump.

 

[User1]

Can Trident be placed higher than the sump as long as the lines are not extended or cut?

I am planning to add a shelf with a bracket inside my tank cabinet and place Trident on shelf. It is a bit higher than the sump.

Hmm, you know I do not have a 100% answer other than to say that I believe it can be, yes. Darn good question though so I went to the docs to check. All I found via the FAQ and setup page...

https://www.neptunesystems.com/getstarted/trident/faq/

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Get Started | Trident Installation

Trident Installation: Preface This guide will illustrate how to physically install the Trident. The guide below will walk through the different steps illustrated on the Get Started card included with your Neptune Systems Trident, but the recommended method is to use the Trident Initial Setup...

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[canadianeh]

Can Trident be placed higher than the sump as long as the lines are not extended or cut?

I am planning to add a shelf with a bracket inside my tank cabinet and place Trident on shelf. It is a bit higher than the sump.

I wonder if @Terence from Neptune can answer this question

 

[TheHarold]

I wonder if @Terence from Neptune can answer this question

Its all very well documented if you look on their site, see #4. The trident should be higher than the sump to prevent any potential siphon.

 

[canadianeh]

Its all very well documented if you look on their site, see #4. The trident should be higher than the sump to prevent any potential siphon.

It is not that well documented. It does not clearly say how high one can place Trident above sump. I guess as long as the sample line is not higher than Trident and the lines are not extended or cut?

 

[OceanDiver]

I used ESV Two Part and Trident based dosing. I have had no issues.

 

[Jamezanity]

is it worth it to buy a trident for 25g tank?

 

[User1]

is it worth it to buy a trident for 25g tank?

Worth is up to the hobbyist. I would not though, no. Why? Probably because I could easily control the levels by a daily does of tropic marin all for reef. However, if the demand is such anything is possible.

I'm strictly looking at it from a overall use space for the corals.

 

[Jamezanity]

Worth is up to the hobbyist. I would not though, no. Why? Probably because I could easily control the levels by a daily does of tropic marin all for reef. However, if the demand is such anything is possible.

I'm strictly looking at it from a overall use space for the corals.

Thanks for the response. I was thinking same thing but i was wondering hows the DOS and Trident works ? because im planning to do dosing on my frag tank.

 

[User1]

Thanks for the response. I was thinking same thing but i was wondering hows the DOS and Trident works ? because im planning to do dosing on my frag tank.

Dosing and frag tanks do change things a bit. I guess it would depend then on total water volume or if connected together, etc. I can't really explain it other than to say it works pretty well and it has a built in fail safe which makes it so popular. You already have your dosing parameter set up or limits if you will. The task for trident control allows a min and max. If something happens and it goes over then it falls back. Something like that. Below is a link that may help explain it more or how it is set up.

In my head I have a value and the trident lets it float a bit to try and make it more stable. It will not go above the limit no matter what so I don't worry about it. Anyway sorry for not being exact Docs may be a better place. Hope all is well.

Get Started | Trident Controlled Dosing

Trident Controlled DŌS: Preface This guide will walk through setup of Trident controlled dosing using the Neptune Systems DŌS. Controlled dosing allows you to set desired levels for alkalinity, calcium, and magnesium, and have automatic control of those parameters. The best way to configure...

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[Jamezanity]

Dosing and frag tanks do change things a bit. I guess it would depend then on total water volume or if connected together, etc. I can't really explain it other than to say it works pretty well and it has a built in fail safe which makes it so popular. You already have your dosing parameter set up or limits if you will. The task for trident control allows a min and max. If something happens and it goes over then it falls back. Something like that. Below is a link that may help explain it more or how it is set up.

In my head I have a value and the trident lets it float a bit to try and make it more stable. It will not go above the limit no matter what so I don't worry about it. Anyway sorry for not being exact Docs may be a better place. Hope all is well.

Get Started | Trident Controlled Dosing

Trident Controlled DŌS: Preface This guide will walk through setup of Trident controlled dosing using the Neptune Systems DŌS. Controlled dosing allows you to set desired levels for alkalinity, calcium, and magnesium, and have automatic control of those parameters. The best way to configure...

www.neptunesystems.com

Thank you. I think i will try the trident it will make more easy to me to do the tests rather than doing it manually. lol

 

[haitian_reefer]

Thank you. I think i will try the trident it will make more easy to me to do the tests rather than doing it manually. lol

You'll love it! I've had mine for about 8 months now. One thing to know is that reagents were scarce when states were shutdown. For some time it was pretty difficult to get reagents. You'll notice even after states are open again 6 months supply is not available for purchase.

 

[puffy127]

What happens when you ignore the Reagent B empty alarm? The alarm has been on for a few days, but I still had over 25% of Reagent A left, so I was going to let it keep testing Alk, but I can't figure out what the alk testing schedule will be. Here is what has happened to me under the 4/2/2 automatic combined testing schedule.

8/25 - 00:00 all 3 tests
8/25 - 12:00 - Reagent B alarm - no more Ca or Mg tests - alk test still done
8/25 - 6:00 - alk test
8/25 - 12:00 alk test
8/25 - 18:00 - alk test
8:26 - 00:00 - alk test
8/26 - 6:00 - alk test
8/26 - 12:00 alk test
8/26 - 18:00 - No alk test
8/27 - 00:00 - alk test
8/27 - 6:00 - No alk test - Reagent B alarm turned itself off

 

[evolved]

What happens when you ignore the Reagent B empty alarm? The alarm has been on for a few days, but I still had over 25% of Reagent A left, so I was going to let it keep testing Alk, but I can't figure out what the alk testing schedule will be.

It will still keep testing Alk (w/ reagent A) on the same 4x/day schedule.

 

[puffy127]

It will still keep testing Alk (w/ reagent A) on the same 4x/day schedule.

Interesting. I wonder why it skipped 2 tests.

 

[evolved]

Interesting. I wonder why it skipped 2 tests.

Not sure about that.