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[CoralB]

65 gallons.
February is gonna have big changes filtration wise. I've been advised to not do a sump but I really don't know what to say to that at this point. I really wanna start one because I love the customizability.

Who’s telling you not to have a sump ?

 

[CoralB]

65 gallons.
February is gonna have big changes filtration wise. I've been advised to not do a sump but I really don't know what to say to that at this point. I really wanna start one because I love the customizability.

I would strongly if you can afford one , to get a sump
How long was your tank up and running ??

 

[cdemoss01]

65 gallons.
February is gonna have big changes filtration wise. I've been advised to not do a sump but I really don't know what to say to that at this point. I really wanna start one because I love the customizability.

Who’s telling you not to have a sump ?

Not necessarily not telling me to have one. But I think they've stressed how Introducing a sump isn't going to idmeadiatly fix the issue and I understand that 100%. But it'll help me greatly with customization etc. the only two things I'm afraid of is my stands weight capacity and space in it. Im gonna try doing 20 gallons. Skimmer etc.

 

[TheNative192]

not at all. Hasn't bothered anyone. I have seen fish swim against it even. I have an emerald crab that seems to have made it's cone base it's home.

That's good to hear. I know my clowns will 100% try & host it so hopefully it plays nice.

 

[kevgib67]

That appears to be remedial education for you Doctor...just saying. Hahaha

That’s one down and four to go, for Ohio then one more later in the year for Pennsylvania.

 

[CoralB]

Not necessarily not telling me to have one. But I think they've stressed how Introducing a sump isn't going to idmeadiatly fix the issue and I understand that 100%. But it'll help me greatly with customization etc. the only two things I'm afraid of is my stands weight capacity and space in it. Im gonna try doing 20 gallons. Skimmer etc.

No it won’t fix your situation , and your stand has to handle the weight , but in the long run it will be helpful . How long have you had this problem ?

 

[TheNative192]

Not necessarily not telling me to have one. But I think they've stressed how Introducing a sump isn't going to idmeadiatly fix the issue and I understand that 100%. But it'll help me greatly with customization etc. the only two things I'm afraid of is my stands weight capacity and space in it. Im gonna try doing 20 gallons. Skimmer etc.

I found that when I had my GHA outbreak my phosphates were still in that lower range. For me the key was manual removal, dosing Phosphate E to get my phosphates down, dipping corals that accept Peroxide if any were smothered and I severely reduced my feedings.

With a lot of GHA your phosphates are probably a lot higher than the tests show since essentially the GHA probably absorbed it all. Same thing with the rocks so it may take a while to lower.

 

[cdemoss01]

Not necessarily not telling me to have one. But I think they've stressed how Introducing a sump isn't going to idmeadiatly fix the issue and I understand that 100%. But it'll help me greatly with customization etc. the only two things I'm afraid of is my stands weight capacity and space in it. Im gonna try doing 20 gallons. Skimmer etc.

No it won’t fix your situation , and your stand has to handle the weight , but in the long run it will be helpful . How long have you had this problem ?

Forever.

 

[cdemoss01]

Not necessarily not telling me to have one. But I think they've stressed how Introducing a sump isn't going to idmeadiatly fix the issue and I understand that 100%. But it'll help me greatly with customization etc. the only two things I'm afraid of is my stands weight capacity and space in it. Im gonna try doing 20 gallons. Skimmer etc.

I found that when I had my GHA outbreak my phosphates were still in that lower range. For me the key was manual removal, dosing Phosphate E to get my phosphates down, dipping corals that accept Peroxide if any were smothered and I severely reduced my feedings.

With a lot of GHA your phosphates are probably a lot higher than the tests show since essentially the GHA probably absorbed it all. Same thing with the rocks so it may take a while to lower.

Yep. That's what I'm afraid of.

 

[Üter]

Not necessarily not telling me to have one. But I think they've stressed how Introducing a sump isn't going to idmeadiatly fix the issue and I understand that 100%. But it'll help me greatly with customization etc. the only two things I'm afraid of is my stands weight capacity and space in it. Im gonna try doing 20 gallons. Skimmer etc.

that's a big water change. considering 65 gal capacity with how much rock/sand displacement? did someone tell you larger change rather than smaller changes more often?

 

[GarrettDie4U]

Morning guys and gals! I want to throw something to you guys! I think i want to try a softy in my tank. This place is an hour ride from my house, and I was thinking about going to get something but idk if these prices are fair or if any of these corals are worth the trip vs getting exactly what I want online. Anyone familiar with softies and see anything kinda cool at a fair price?

https://www.aquacorals.com/
I kinda want a toadstool or something. I like the weeping willow one but I thought they were supposed to be green?

I just got two different cloves from Cream City Corals . Went to there shop to pick them up and omg what a beautiful massive collection they have . I Highly recommend them ;) My new favorite place to go :)

 

[cdemoss01]

Not necessarily not telling me to have one. But I think they've stressed how Introducing a sump isn't going to idmeadiatly fix the issue and I understand that 100%. But it'll help me greatly with customization etc. the only two things I'm afraid of is my stands weight capacity and space in it. Im gonna try doing 20 gallons. Skimmer etc.

that's a big water change. considering 65 gal capacity with how much rock/sand displacement? did someone tell you larger change rather than smaller changes more often?

I've been told a mix of things. I wanna do larger changes every two or less weeks.

 

[CoralB]

I found that when I had my GHA outbreak my phosphates were still in that lower range. For me the key was manual removal, dosing Phosphate E to get my phosphates down, dipping corals that accept Peroxide if any were smothered and I severely reduced my feedings.

With a lot of GHA your phosphates are probably a lot higher than the tests show since essentially the GHA probably absorbed it all. Same thing with the rocks so it may take a while to lower.

His phosphates are 0.24

 

[Nor'easter Reefer]

I just got two different cloves from Cream City Corals . Went to there shop to pick them up and omg what a beautiful massive collection they have . I Highly recommend them ;) My new favorite place to go :)

I recently got a Walt disney, a vivids confetti, a gremlin milli, a teal tort, and a palleto pink tip from cream city corals! Before the new owners got it!

 

[TheNative192]

His phosphates are 0.24

Lots of people run tanks at 0.2 or 0.1 without GHA with good clean up crew it seems. It is definitely high & too high for Acros, but what I have found from personal experience & also from reading on here a lot of the time phosphates are absorbed into the rock, in the GHA itself, and so when you treat with something like Fluconazole or you add GFO the phosphate number stays the same because the GHA breaks down back into phosphates or the rock leaches phosphates back into the water. For me the only treatment that worked after months was a lot of manual removal of the GHA and then lots of testing over & over of phosphates as I used Phosphate E until I finally saw it dropping. Not saying that's the best way to go about it & Lanthiam Chloride is dangerous to fish, corals, especially tangs but I tried large amounts of GFO & my phosphates increased and Fluconazole and it just kept coming back till I reduced feedings & got my phosphates stable. now they sit at 0.1-0.15 and I have no GHA whatsoever because my CUC takes care of it before it gets bad.

 

[CoralB]

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[Üter]

Lots of people run tanks at 0.2 or 0.1 without GHA with good clean up crew it seems. It is definitely high & too high for Acros, but what I have found from personal experience & also from reading on here a lot of the time phosphates are absorbed into the rock, in the GHA itself, and so when you treat with something like Fluconazole or you add GFO the phosphate number stays the same because the GHA breaks down back into phosphates or the rock leaches phosphates back into the water. For me the only treatment that worked after months was a lot of manual removal of the GHA and then lots of testing over & over of phosphates as I used Phosphate E until I finally saw it dropping. Not saying that's the best way to go about it & Lanthiam Chloride is dangerous to fish, corals, especially tangs but I tried large amounts of GFO & my phosphates increased and Fluconazole and it just kept coming back till I reduced feedings & got my phosphates stable. now they sit at 0.1-0.15 and I have no GHA whatsoever because my CUC takes care of it before it gets bad.

would more bags of phosguard help him to absorb it out?

 

[CoralB]

Lots of people run tanks at 0.2 or 0.1 without GHA with good clean up crew it seems. It is definitely high & too high for Acros, but what I have found from personal experience & also from reading on here a lot of the time phosphates are absorbed into the rock, in the GHA itself, and so when you treat with something like Fluconazole or you add GFO the phosphate number stays the same because the GHA breaks down back into phosphates or the rock leaches phosphates back into the water. For me the only treatment that worked after months was a lot of manual removal of the GHA and then lots of testing over & over of phosphates as I used Phosphate E until I finally saw it dropping. Not saying that's the best way to go about it & Lanthiam Chloride is dangerous to fish, corals, especially tangs but I tried large amounts of GFO & my phosphates increased and Fluconazole and it just kept coming back till I reduced feedings & got my phosphates stable. now they sit at 0.1-0.15 and I have no GHA whatsoever because my CUC takes care of it before it gets bad.

I believe you were telling him that they were low

I found that when I had my GHA outbreak my phosphates were still in that lower range. For me the key was manual removal, dosing Phosphate E to get my phosphates down, dipping corals that accept Peroxide if any were smothered and I severely reduced my feedings.

With a lot of GHA your phosphates are probably a lot higher than the tests show since essentially the GHA probably absorbed it all. Same thing with the rocks so it may take a while to lower.

I told him his phosphates were fine not causing his problems

 

[kevgib67]

It's coming. Also have a 20 gallon change set up for this Wednesday..

Get one of these sea hares, it won’t solve your problem but it will clear every spec of gha in your tank quickly. While it does that work on the problem causing the algae bloom.

 

[TheNative192]

would more bags of phosguard help him to absorb it out?

Yes, now I think people say Phosguard can leach aluminum so people say to avoid it (I think Randy found that out) GFO is basically the same thing. The tricky part with GFO is lets say you load up the system with GFO you could accidently drop the system to 0 phosphates. If you get a 5 Micron mesh filter sock and use Phosphate E or Lanthian chloride since its a drop and works fast. You will see a drop in 24 hours while GFO/Phosguard takes days, weeks, or months and with GFO my phosphates were increasing after doing 4x the recommended dose for some reason lol. GFO is honestly better once its already stable but if I had another GHA outbreak I would start with manual removal since most CUC wont get it if its too long, use Lanthiam chloride safely until you see a meaningful drop. Reduce feedings & then add some Rowaphos or some type of GFO to keep it stable. A fuge helps a lot I hear too.

Also large water changes are not great at combating phosphates because of leaching from the rocks & breakdown of GHA etc. Also usually it does not make a large enough meaningful difference in the number.