6' x 3' penensula?

[randomfishdude]

Im wondering if anyone knows of a 6' by 3' penensula? I would prefer to buy one since it theoretically would get here faster than a coustom made one. It is going in our wall at our new house. So no need for a stand. Also what would the recommended be for a sump?

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Im wondering if anyone knows of a 6' by 3' penensula? I would prefer to buy one since it theoretically would get here faster than a coustom made one. It is going in our wall at our new house. So no need for a stand. Also what would the recommended be for a sump?

How is a peninsula being used as an in-wall tank? Won't you lose a side (or two) that way?

 

[randomfishdude]

How is a peninsula being used as an in-wall tank? Won't you lose a side (or two) that way?

Hard to explain how I'm doing it. But only 2 sides have the ability to be viewed. Which are the long sides. I can do a middle overflow but I feel I have more freedom if the overflow is off to the side.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Hard to explain how I'm doing it. But only 2 sides have the ability to be viewed. Which are the long sides. I can do a middle overflow but I feel I have more freedom if the overflow is off to the side.

So more of of a "window" tank. Nice.
Will you have an access closet to get to the overflow?

As for a sump, you didn't mention the height, but a 6x3 foot tank will be around 270 gallons, so if you can fit a larger sump, it may serve you best. Practically, a sump is to hold equipment/a refugium and add water volume... it can be any size you want.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Im wondering if anyone knows of a 6' by 3' penensula? I would prefer to buy one since it theoretically would get here faster than a coustom made one. It is going in our wall at our new house. So no need for a stand. Also what would the recommended be for a sump?

Probably going to have to go custom with those dimensions.

 

[EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal]

Are you planning on acrylic? Or glass?

 

[jhadaway]

Hard to explain how I'm doing it. But only 2 sides have the ability to be viewed. Which are the long sides. I can do a middle overflow but I feel I have more freedom if the overflow is off to the side.

I'm in the process of putting in a wall tank 72x30x25. After drawing it out a thousand times I went with an external overflow in the middle. I had a hard time solving getting flow right without sending a massive amount of water from the far wall and back. I want to have a mixed reef. I solved the problem by running the drain pipes to what would be the viewing front of the tank from the back (inside the room). You will view the front and left sides of the tank. I also didn't want to go that large without a euro-brace. It's a custom Waterbox and it's taking about 90 days to produce. I did get a quote on a 36" deep and it was about $1800 more that the 30". In the end, my arms aren't long enough...
Food for thought. Good luck!

 

[Soren]

Hard to explain how I'm doing it. But only 2 sides have the ability to be viewed. Which are the long sides. I can do a middle overflow but I feel I have more freedom if the overflow is off to the side.

Though your application sounds like a window aquarium, it does sound like peninsula is the tank style you want, with the overflow on the end rather than a typical reef-ready tank with overflows in the middle. Flow may be more of an issue working from either end rather than from the middle as well, but it is definitely possible. I've heard of using plumbing lines from the end to the middle of the tank near the top that get hidden by a hood, but I'm not experienced in the efficacy or issues of such a design even though I considered something like this several years ago.

I do not know of any "standard" off-the-shelf tanks with the dimensions you want (like @EeyoreIsMySpiritAnimal, I noticed you did not specify depth top-to-bottom of the tank, but assume around 24"?, which would be right at 270 gallons total display volume).

If you go the more likely route of custom tanks, I've heard great things about Glass Cages. @Joe Glass Cages might be able to answer questions about overflow recommendations as well.

My guess/suggestion is to go with as big a sump as possible for available space and budget. If you have the room nearby, it may not have to fit only directly under the display and might be partially/fully hidden in the wall or an adjoining fish room/closet. Just make sure to plan your accessibility before building more permanent wall around the system.

 

[randomfishdude]

Here is a little diagram. Sorry it's bad I just drew it up on my phone.

The closet is my bedroom closet, so no fish tank in there. However the sump we are planning on going under the tank, we also have a pass through that goes to the underneath of the bathroom counter, where we will have a rodi, mixing station and whatever else. The issue is we can't get a sump under there that will fill up the whole space, only about 1/2 the space.
We also are going to do a full wall on the gameroom side but it is going to be completely open on top for my bedroom side.

 

[14 foot reef]

I could help you with this on a DM, but don't want 1000 opinions flying around while I'm trying to help with tank and sump design.
I have a pretty extensive background in tank design and filtration design.

With more details sent to me DM, I can surely help you get off the ground running

 

[Soren]

Here is a little diagram. Sorry it's bad I just drew it up on my phone.

The closet is my bedroom closet, so no fish tank in there. However the sump we are planning on going under the tank, we also have a pass through that goes to the underneath of the bathroom counter, where we will have a rodi, mixing station and whatever else. The issue is we can't get a sump under there that will fill up the whole space, only about 1/2 the space.
We also are going to do a full wall on the gameroom side but it is going to be completely open on top for my bedroom side.

Yep, looks like your only good option is for the sump and all system elements to be housed directly under the display tank. If there is a full wall on the game room side, that might be an option to overlap the top part of the tank to hide plumbing lines if you go that route (they would still be visible from the bedroom side, though), but the best option for clean aesthetic seems to be to have an overflow on the end that is accessible either through the bathroom wall or the bedroom closet wall.

You might also be able to do a continental overflow along one long side that connects with plumbing at one end, similar to a peninsula overflow.

Keep in mind that, although paneling and walls can be used to hid some of the plumbing and give a system a tidy appearance, all plumbing components need to be accessed for servicing, You will almost certainly thank yourself later if you design the system with easy access points and as much space as can be afforded.

 

[Soren]

I could help you with this on a DM, but don't want 1000 opinions flying around while I'm trying to help with tank and sump design.
I have a pretty extensive background in tank design and filtration design.

With more details sent to me DM, I can surely help you get off the ground running

I agree with you and support you on this. Forums are great for idea brainstorming, but it is much better to narrow down on a plan with as few variables as possible (including number of people involved in the actual planning).

 

[randomfishdude]

I do have a full daw up of the sump. And I have a 3d model made too. I can share them later after I get home. I'm fine with dm. Everything will be accsesable through the bedroom side. Including the overflow. Which will be on the closet side. I also can have powerheads on both sides of the tank for flow...

 

[randomfishdude]

Little update to whats going on. We have switches and stand marked out for the electrician and framers, the plumber plumbed me a water outlet/faucet thing that will be in my cabinet, he also plumbed a pipe that I can hook to a small pump and pump water change water out.

I am assuming that I would have to put the sump in before I put thr tank on? So I can just lower it in?

 

[randomfishdude]

Going to bring the stand out to 3 feet deep. We have to figure out a cube sump to fit underneath. Not ahure what size would be good.

 

[randomfishdude]

My parents seem to think thoes middle 2x4 or nessacary and can only remove the outer 2.
My mother says there is plenty of space for a sump.

I say it's not enough. And the tank dosnt need the vertical 2x4 (thwre is one sideways on the bottom of the plywood) i thinking 75 gal sump.

I ask thoes who have a tank this size. Do I need thoes middle supports?

 

[BryanM]

Just curious if there's a pool table in the game room.... I'd be afraid of a billiard ball getting airborn and hitting the tank.

I also think 6x3 would need to be custom.

 

[randomfishdude]

Just curious if there's a pool table in the game room.... I'd be afraid of a billiard ball getting airborn and hitting the tank.

I also think 6x3 would need to be custom.

Yes it would be coustom.
And yes a pool table/ping pong. We haven't had any issues however...only thing is ping pongs going in the tank.

 

[randomfishdude]

:]

 

[randomfishdude]

Got to unbox.
Bigger than i expected.
And sump is super cool.