Ich X is made by hikari and it worked for my freshwater. My angel and puffer have ich and I was going to do ttm but I decided I will try this first because it is less stressful. Anyone use this and if so how long should I be treating them with it?
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So are you saying it only works with freshwater? If I did the tank transfer, could I do two 5 gallon buckets with a 2 inch angel and puffer in it?I have never heard of a case of marine ich cured with this product.
So are you saying it only works with freshwater? If I did the tank transfer, could I do two 5 gallon buckets with a 2 inch angel and puffer in it?
This one from Hikari works well. It has formalin in addition to malachite green found in Ich X.Ich X is made by hikari and it worked for my freshwater. My angel and puffer have ich and I was going to do ttm but I decided I will try this first because it is less stressful. Anyone use this and if so how long should I be treating them with it?
Freshwater ich is NOT the same parasite as marine ich. The proven methods have been copper, CP, or TTM. I personally don't care for TTM as there is a lot of room for failure, and you have to be sure you have cryptocaryon irritans and not something else. It is ineffective for other parasites.
Don’t be scared just learn and educate yourself on it and you’ll feel more comfortable. Every single fish I get goes through 30 days of copper minimum regardless. I trust no one except the copper that’s guaranteed to kill these parasites. I personally can not risk adding any parasites to my DT, QT is the pinnacle of success in this hobby imo.This is correct. But I prefer TTM. Copper and CP scare me. Mostly because I have never done it.
Don’t be scared just learn and educate yourself on it and you’ll feel more comfortable. Every single fish I get goes through 30 days of copper minimum regardless. I trust no one except the copper that’s guaranteed to kill these parasites. I personally can not risk adding any parasites to my DT, QT is the pinnacle of success in this hobby imo.
This is correct. But I prefer TTM. Copper and CP scare me. Mostly because I have never done it.
I have decided to do ttm using five gallon buckets. I have a puffer and angel so copper is not the best for either. And I don’t know what cp is. Ttm also seems like it is the most foolproof for someone who is new to quarantine such as meKnowledge is indeed power, I would definitely recommend reading up on them. As you have noticed with observational QT, things can definitely get past it. TTM IMO is a lot more work and worry than the other ones. If you are setup for TTM, then copper or CP will seem like a walk in the park.
Ya not gonna do that. Because they are only in there for the tank transfer method, do you think the five gallon buckets are ok for the puffer and angel?CP is Chloroquine-phosphate. To get pharmacy grade CP, you have to get a prescription from a vet.
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I have decided to do ttm using five gallon buckets. I have a puffer and angel so copper is not the best for either. And I don’t know what cp is. Ttm also seems like it is the most foolproof for someone who is new to quarantine such as me
What do you mean by off? Do you mean like a day late, or a hour late?TTM is technique sensitive, if you are off even a little on the day the fish needs to be moved then it will not work. If fish carries parasite or cyst during the final transfer then it will not work. With TTM you are using the lifecycle of cryptocaryon irritans and moving the fish as the parasite falls off to reproduce. Far from full proof. It can be done successfully, but can easily fail. My biggest gripe is you have to be 100% sure it is cryptocaryon irritans and not something else, and not a combination of parasites.
To answer your question, I’ve never tried to do TTM with buckets, but others have with success.
I have done TTM in combination with hypo with success, but it was more luck than anything. Way too much work for me to try again.
Either way, I wish you luck and hope the fish recover,
TTM is the most technique sensitive treatment
if you are off even a little on the day the fish needs to be moved then it will not work.
It can be done successfully, but can easily fail.
Not sure why you thought this referenced salinity, clearly does not. I was stating if you wait too long to transfer the fish then the process can fail. CP is a far less technique sensitive treatment that treats a broad spectrum of parasites. This is my opinion, if you disagree that is perfectly fine.This is simply not true. As you yourself noted, TTM breaks the lifecycle of the parasite. The salinity of the water has absolutely nothing to do with it. You should try to match salinity as close as possible to make it easier on the fish, but a slightly different salinity will not cause the TTM to “not work”. Perhaps you are confusing TTM with hyposalinity.
I just wash my hands, drain the water low, and catch them with my hands. It seems less stressful to them and is easierIf you have 2-3 sets of everything and set an alarm on your phone when to move them......TTM is pretty easy imo.
Keep it simple with air line and air stones and buy a large bag of 10 of them. Swap to a new stone and line every time. I would not trust something as porous as an air stone to fully dry in 72 hours.
Plastic colonders dry faster than nets...etc..
I put a fan blowing on the set drying out just because I can.
TTM is probably not appropriate for those with busy schedules who may miss the TTM time/date.