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Hey guys I need a little clarification. I've been having some power outages today and my skimmer has been overflowing each time power comes back on because it starts the moment power comes on(water level). I have a delay on it though which is why I'm confused. This is what I got

Fallback On
Set on
If return pump off then off
Delay 10mins then on

I just changed the fallback to off. Should that fix the problem? I thought regardless of the fallback condition, whenever the return pump goes off, the skimmer is delayed 10 mins whenever the return pump comes on. For example, if I'm doing a water change and turn off the return pump, the skimmer does what it should and starts only after 10 mins of restarting the return pump. Why is it that it doesn't do this after power goes out and comes back. It's an Apex Jr. just for the record.
 

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This is what I use for my feed cycles for delays.
Fallback ON
Set ON
If FeedA 005 Then OFF
If FeedB 005 Then OFF
If FeedC 007 Then OFF
If FeedD 007 Then OFF

I would suggest
If (outlet xyz) 005 the off
 

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Fallback On
Set On
If Output "Return_Pump" = Off Then Off
Defer 010:00 Then On

Make sure you change "Return_Pump" to whatever exactly you have yours named.

The ten minute defer is for the entire outlet, so just add off for your feed cycles with a ten minute delay like this

If FeedA 000 Then OFF

To add additional delay to the feed cycle of whatever you want do this, i will use 5 as an example for a total of 15 minute delay

If FeedA 005 Then Off
 
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I don't know why you guys are showing your feed cycle programs. I never asked about that. What I am talking about specifically, is upon power being restored after an outage. Anyone have this issue too?
 

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It works for me never have a overflow from skimmer after ReturnSK should be the plug you have skimmer return pump plug into like this
If Output ReturnSK -7_6 = OFF Then OFF
7 is my eb8 number in plug number 6
 

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I don't know why you guys are showing your feed cycle programs. I never asked about that. What I am talking about specifically, is upon power being restored after an outage. Anyone have this issue too?

Yes, and that is why i posted the following code, That is exactly what this is for

Fallback On
Set On
If Output "Return_Pump" = Off Then Off
Defer 010:00 Then On

Make sure you change "Return_Pump" to whatever exactly you have yours named.

I included the following information to explain what the defer was, and how to integrate it to also work for your feed cycles.

The ten minute defer is for the entire outlet, so just add off for your feed cycles with a ten minute delay like this

If FeedA 000 Then OFF

To add additional delay to the feed cycle of whatever you want do this, i will use 5 as an example for a total of 15 minute delay

If FeedA 005 Then Off
 

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Only difference is I’m running a external skimmer so I have two pumps one is my feed for my skimmer or ReturnSK an the other pump is my air pump that’s plugged into 7-7 so this program is for the air not to come on till 010:00 after return pump starts this program is on air pump
 

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You may need to add another line before the defer line
It would be if your running internal skimmer for a power outage
If Power Apex OFF 001 Then OFF
 
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You may need to add another line before the defer line
It would be if your running internal skimmer for a power outage
If Power Apex OFF 001 Then OFF

I think this is the solution. I was just going over the manual. Thanks
 
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So let me know if I got everything.
Fallback OFF
Set ON
If Outlet return_pump = OFF then OFF
Defer 010:00 then ON
If Power Apex OFF 010 then ON

So this delays the skimmer 10 mins whenever I manually turn off the return pump, and it ALSO delays the skimmer 10 mins whenever there's a power failure and power is restored. Right??
 

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Just swap the power outage line with outlet line move one up the other down line 4 an 5
Then I would test it se if it work for you
 
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