Bangai cardinal white stringy poop

[armandoarturo]

Hello everyone!
I just finished a Whole month of prazipro (4 doses) because my tangs had black ich.
They are now fine and look good.
Today I found two of my bangai cardinals with a white long string poop.
Is this also a parasite??? Im tired of all this issues ‍‍‍

Here is a video of it:

 

[armandoarturo]

Seems like the video didnt upload correctly.
Here it is:

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hello everyone!
I just finished a Whole month of prazipro (4 doses) because my tangs had black ich.
They are now fine and look good.
Today I found two of my bangai cardinals with a white long string poop.
Is this also a parasite??? Im tired of all this issues ‍‍‍

Here is a video of it:

While it can be, it is also caused by excess mucus in the stomach lining. What foods are you feeding them?
Often foods heavy with mysis shrimp will cause the mucus effect

 

[armandoarturo]

While it can be, it is also caused by excess mucus in the stomach lining. What foods are you feeding them?
Often foods heavy with mysis shrimp will cause the mucus effect

Ive been feeding frozen Home made food and also mysis shrimp…

 

[vetteguy53081]

Ive been feeding frozen Home made food and also mysis shrimp…
withhold mysis and see if you notice improvement

 

[armandoarturo]

Ive been feeding frozen Home made food and also mysis shrimp…

withhold mysis and see if you notice improvement

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[vetteguy53081]

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Don’t feed mysis for a week or two and see if feces changes color and. Consistency

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Hello everyone!
I just finished a Whole month of prazipro (4 doses) because my tangs had black ich.
They are now fine and look good.
Today I found two of my bangai cardinals with a white long string poop.
Is this also a parasite??? Im tired of all this issues ‍‍‍

Here is a video of it:

The timeline you outlined implies you have had these fish for at least a month. That helps rule out the Banggai cardinalfish virus. There are a number of reasons fish develop long stringy feces, some are more of an issue than others. The fish in the video is breathing kind of deeply - it may be just because you were close to it getting the video, but that bears watching. Here is a write-up I did on white feces:

Excess mucus in fish feces:

This will present as white or light colored, stringy fecal material that often hangs from the fish’s anus for a longer than normal period. There are a number of different causes for this, some benign, others very serious. Without access to a microscope, there is little that can be done to diagnose this issue effectively.

Idiopathic mucus feces: this fancy term is just to describe white mucoid bulky feces of no serious consequence, but of an unknown cause. Some suspicion is that this can be caused by changes in diet or diets high in fats.

Starvation: Fish that have no food moving through their bowels may excrete white mucoid feces with little bulk to them. The primary diagnostic for this issue is evident in that the fish won’t been seen to be eating. Resolving the anorexia is of course the prime focus to resolve this issue.

Bacterial infection: internal bacterial infections can cause stringy feces as well. While some of these may resolve on their own, medicated foods containing a broad spectrum, gram negative oral antibiotic may be required.

Metazoan infections: multicellular worms are often blamed for mucoid feces, but in reality, they are almost never the root cause for this, and really, can only be diagnosed through looking for their ova in fecal samples. Fish can harbor tapeworms and nematodes without producing mucoid feces.

Protozoan infection: Hexamita and related diplomonad flagellate protozoans very frequently cause white stringy feces, especially in newly acquired clownfish. Metronidazole is the most frequent treatment for this issue. It can be dosed orally at 25 mg per kg of fish body weight, or 5 g in a kg of food. However, it is a very bitter medication, and some fish will refuse to feed on food containing it. It can be dosed in the water at 25 mg/l, but this is more effective in treating marine fishes, as freshwater fish do not “drink” aquarium water.

Coccidia: These microscopic, spore-forming, single-celled parasites are common diseases in dogs and cats. In fish, they cause epithelial necrosis of the gut, enteritis and the copious production of mucus (Noga 2010). These cannot be diagnosed without microscopic examination, and there is no well researched cure for this in fishes, although Toltrazuril has been tested.

Constipation: This malady is often given as a cause for stringy feces, but it is not as common as one would think. When it is seen, the feces are usually dark, not light in color. Often touted as a “cure for constipation”, many aquarists add Epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) to the aquarium’s water – do not do this in marine aquariums, its use is primarily as a tonic/dip for freshwater fish. Seawater formulas already contain between 7 and 19 grams of magnesium sulfate per gallon (depending on the recipe). NSW magnesium level is around 1200 ppm and sulfur is around 840 ppm. Some benefit might be seen using it as a dip in additional concentrations, but adding a small amount to a marine aquarium itself has no benefit. Epsom salts do have some possible benefit when mixed into the food as a 3% by weight adjunct. Another commonly heard remedy for constipation is; “feed fresh peas”. This is an effective cure for fancy goldfish and Malawi cichlids that develop constipation and bloating. Again, overextrapolation has marine aquarists trying to feed peas to carnivorous fish, etc. The best method to enhance gut motility in fish is to feed frozen adult brine shrimp – not as a permanent diet, just long enough to get the constipation resolved.


Jay

 

[armandoarturo]

Yes, Ive had them for about two months and the one in the video has been with me for two years.
I also see that its fins look eroded. They arent as long as the other cardinals.
I saw another of my cardinals with long stringy poop yesterday and seems like its fins are also eroded…

Here are two pictures, one of them has two of my cardinals with regular fins, and the other one has a single cardinal with smaller fins

 

[Jay Hemdal]

Yes, Ive had them for about two months and the one in the video has been with me for two years.
I also see that its fins look eroded. They arent as long as the other cardinals.
I saw another of my cardinals with long stringy poop yesterday and seems like its fins are also eroded…

Here are two pictures, one of them has two of my cardinals with regular fins, and the other one has a single cardinal with smaller fins

I'm not aware of a disease that can cause a fish's fins to become truncated like that unless there was an injury to start with. Could they be fighting?

Jay

 

[armandoarturo]

I dont think they were fighting.. I would have seen them… and if they ever did, this is my biggest one, Im sure none of the others could have cause this damage

So this cardinal ended up filpped in a corner so I took it out of the aquarium and placed it in a bowl and died couple of minutes after this ‍

 

[armandoarturo]

Both cardinals who had the stringy white poop and fins eroded died yesterday
I really wonder what caused this