Bouncing acro 😂

[805reeftank]

anyone ever seen this before over? The last couple months my pc rainbow has been getting extremely puffy/bubbly to the point when flow hits it looks like the skin is deflating. Kind of concerned it’s in the middle of the tank getting about 450-550 par for 8hrs, it’s the only acro doing this. Any suggestions?

 

[Utubereefer]

looks awesome. Start the next coral trend

 

[billyocean]

Tulip polyp syndrome or neoplasia maybe? There are threads on it somewhere. May be that?

 

[805reeftank]

looks awesome. Start the next coral trend

It’s actually lost some of its color since the skin is so puffy looks freakish lol . I don’t mind it just wondering if anyone has seen this before.

 

[805reeftank]

Tulip polyp syndrome or neoplasia maybe? There are threads on it somewhere. May be that?

I’ll look these up thanks.

 

[Perry]

Many believe that this is a mutation and an effect of light and trace deficiency. Billyocean is pointing you in a good direction...

 

[805reeftank]

Many believe that this is a mutation and an effect of light and trace deficiency. Billyocean is pointing you in a good direction...

Don’t think it’s a trace issue Iv been doing the same thing since the beginning of this tank and it happen about a year into having this frag. Plus ICP come back pretty good. It looks like it could be what Billyocean mentioned not as bubbly but close.

 

[Perry]

Don’t think it’s a trace issue Iv been doing the same thing since the beginning of this tank and it happen about a year into having this frag. Plus ICP come back pretty good. It looks like it could be what Billyocean mentioned not as bubbly but close.

As you wish, I have been helping to understand the exact issue for over 10 years, and from what we learned, the issue is trace and light, but guess you got it... Good luck and Happy Reefing!

 

[805reeftank]

As you wish, I have been helping to understand the exact issue for over 10 years, and from what we learned, the issue is trace and light, but guess you got it... Good luck and Happy Reefing!

Not saying it can’t be lighting just don’t think it’s trace. If it were lighting what would it be? To high of par? To much uv?

 

[Perry]

Not saying it can’t be lighting just don’t think it’s trace. If it were lighting what would it be? To high of par? To much uv?

Too much UV, I highly doubt it, in fact, I would tend to think that it is a missing gap, specifically in LED use, that said, I would look more into the total photoperiodism/intensity of light. Take a look at the rising and falling of the sun, try and mimic what you see from sun up to down. The ramping capability with LED photoperiod is very close to the sun, as far as a curve goes. The photoperiod is best mimicked with around a 6 hour period of intensity, falling off before and after. Anotherwords, viewing blue light on either side should be ok, I use RB/UV channels only. Now, as far as UV is concerned, I tend to believe that a LED lit only tank lacks the UV range, and am on to what Chris Meckley referenced years ago in an interview with Jake Adams, where he claimed that a UV sterilizer on a LED only tank, may close the UV gap missing in the LED lighting. It is what happens to the water that is influenced by UV, not necessarily the direct UV light to the corals itself. FWIW, t5 and halide systems seem to emit uv A&B.
As far as trace, I have NEVER used ICP in 20 years, and worked with Aquaforest when it was free to me, whenever I wanted, I never used. You may ask why?
When is the last time you took your water sample that you intended to test, put it in a vial, put in the dark, and let sit there for a week, took that test result as gospel, then set your system regarding those results? I think the industry loves to gas light people into believing anything they sell you is needed, or required. Having a result tested within hours, then I will treat it like the holy grail, otherwise, it is hard to quantify any type of chemical reactions/mutations undergone in the time from sample to test. With trace, nitrate, and phosphate, I tend to hang my hat on the idea, that if it is there, it is there, the coral does not seem to care in what concentration, based on my observations.
IMHO,
I have noticed this phenomenon only with LED, and only with tanks that were not using a trace protocol and salts not fortified for trace. I would also tend to believe that this, coupled with too intense light may be the culprit for the deformitites. Note, I do not recall a halide or t5 run system encounter this. So, as anything, no nerd is going to 100% know your issue, that would be an Expert, and they don't exist when dealing with nature. Observation, and learning how to care for the system as a whole would take precedence for me.
My take :)

 

[Hemmbone20]

I was about to post an identical thread then I found yours! My PC rainbow is doing the same thing.. also my JF Hateraid started doing it recently too.. with the PC rainbow it’s slowly grown these bubbles over the last 2 months. I haven’t seen any skin regression but I’m wondering if this is indicating poor health on this piece.
It’s also happening on an encrusting monti in the back of my tank that I couldn’t record very well.
See video.

 

[805reeftank]

I was about to post an identical thread then I found yours! My PC rainbow is doing the same thing.. also my JF Hateraid started doing it recently too.. with the PC rainbow it’s slowly grown these bubbles over the last 2 months. I haven’t seen any skin regression but I’m wondering if this is indicating poor health on this piece.
It’s also happening on an encrusting monti in the back of my tank that I couldn’t record very well.
See video.

Let me ask you something. Do you use all for reef?

 

[Hemmbone20]

Let me ask you something. Do you use all for reef?

Yes I use AFR. Had an ICP done just 2 weeks ago and everything seemed ok. Not perfect but nothing was glaringly out of balance.

 

[805reeftank]

Yes I use AFR. Had an ICP done just 2 weeks ago and everything seemed ok. Not perfect but nothing was glaringly out of balance.

Ok I also was using all for reef too and a friend reached out to a person that’s pretty well known coral farmer I won’t mention his name since I didn’t talk with him directly but when he showed him what was happening to my pc rainbow he asked him if I was using all for reef. He said he’s had a couple of customers have the same problem with all for reef.

I had been using all for reef for the whole time my tank was set up and this problem didn’t occur till a little over a year in. Not use what it is about in all for reef but I thought it was weird he called it before knowing I was using it . Fast forward I’m no longer using offer for a couple of reasons. One the main reasons is no ph benefit so I’ve been Chasing that dragon. And 2 was a bit worried I was going to get more of that bubbling on my other Acros. I’ve since got rid of that PC Rainbow but did recently got another frag of it. So we’ll see what happens. And I have not experience any more of the bubbling on any other acros. I’m now dosing with 3 part.

I really liked all for reef and still do I think it’s a great product and easy to use. And as far as ICPs mine have always come back pretty consistent.

 

[Hemmbone20]

Ok I also was using all for reef too and a friend reached out to a person that’s pretty well known coral farmer I won’t mention his name since I didn’t talk with him directly but when he showed him what was happening to my pc rainbow he asked him if I was using all for reef. He said he’s had a couple of customers have the same problem with all for reef.

I had been using all for reef for the whole time my tank was set up and this problem didn’t occur till a little over a year in. Not use what it is about in all for reef but I thought it was weird he called it before knowing I was using it . Fast forward I’m no longer using offer for a couple of reasons. One the main reasons is no ph benefit so I’ve been Chasing that dragon. And 2 was a bit worried I was going to get more of that bubbling on my other Acros. I’ve since got rid of that PC Rainbow but did recently got another frag of it. So we’ll see what happens. And I have not experience any more of the bubbling on any other acros. I’m now dosing with 3 part.

I really liked all for reef and still do I think it’s a great product and easy to use. And as far as ICPs mine have always come back pretty consistent.

Interesting.
I switched to using AFR a few months ago and now that I think about it, that’s when I started seeing the bubbles.. my tank uses a ton of it. 73ml per day at the moment.

Thanks for your insight. Something to investigate.

 

[805reeftank]

Interesting.
I switched to using AFR a few months ago and now that I think about it, that’s when I started seeing the bubbles.. my tank uses a ton of it. 73ml per day at the moment.

Thanks for your insight. Something to investigate.

I was at 80ml in a 50 gal tank so yea maybe something happens when you dose a lot of it