Captive bred Trochus for sale?

[Madison Reef]

I see many posts where people have baby Trochus snails spawn in their tanks.
But I have not seen anyone selling them on reef2reef. Is there any reason why?
They usually run for 4-5 dollars per one snail, and I thought it would be nice if I could buy from people who have too much babies for less.
Anyone?

 

[blaxsun]

You can try the buy/sell/trade forums...

 

[Madison Reef]

You can try the buy/sell/trade forums...

I was asking a question...
I am indeed looking to buy some if its available, but I do not see any posts selling trochus.
So I wanted to know why there is no people selling captive bred trochus.

Sorry if I am in the wrong forum.
How do I move my post?

 

[ISpeakForTheSeas]

I see many posts where people have baby Trochus snails spawn in their tanks.
But I have not seen anyone selling them on reef2reef. Is there any reason why?
They usually run for 4-5 dollars per one snail, and I thought it would be nice if I could buy from people who have too much babies for less.
Anyone?

I’d assume it’s because the larval snails are pelagic and would basically be wiped out in a normal reef tank (beyond that, some species may have highly specific feed needs that would not be met in a normal reef tank). So, I doubt people get enough surviving young to sell.

 

[Madison Reef]

I’d assume it’s because the larval snails are pelagic and would basically be wiped out in a normal reef tank (beyond that, some species may have highly specific feed needs that would not be met in a normal reef tank). So, I doubt people get enough surviving young to sell.

I see. Thank you for explanation!

 

[Stomatopods17]

Snails are easy to breed, keeping them alive to sale is a different story.

Actually a lot of animals in this hobby are easy to get spawning, what happens past that point is where the difficulty comes in because in most cases either they're;

A) cannibalistic in their 'larvae stage' (a lot of crustaceans will just eat whatever small organism is floating around with them, especially predatory ones) and separation is very unrealistic/difficult to maintain.

B) incredibly fragile, not just to water quality but easily destroyed by equipment, high flow, etc.

C) opposite of A, extremely picky and not easy to sustain food wise or have a very hard to work around diet swap as they age. (harlequin shrimp come to mind, it was recently achieved a few years ago and sold but it's been radio silent on that breeding project for some time now and haven't seen any in-stock, its unlikely your average hobbyist could achieve that.)

D) randomly flip the switch on what living conditions they need. Usually the case for freshwater/terrestrial invertebrates, your land hermit crabs aren't captive bred outside of maybe one or two individuals that went all out with it, (and this is something that is desperately in need of captive breeding for how many are killed from misinformation and being treated like throw away pets despite being very long living.) Jellyfish also come to mind because they go through several stages so typically you'd only see public aquariums or jellyfish specialist doing breeding projects with them.

When you factor everything in, you then get to the ultimate question; "is this even worth breeding with moderate success compared to catching them?". For threatened species (like clownfish at the time because their population was rapidly declining since... finding nemo.) their payoff for tank raising is not only massively profitable but also prevents a long term issue down the road. Jellyfish are hard to come across but since they're so short lived its more beneficial for public aquariums to breed in-house them than search and pay for replacements they might never find, especially with rare ones, while jellyfish specialist selling them profit off the fact they do need replaced and even if their demographic is niche they rotate their stock fast.

Now trochus snails, speaking purely hypothetically, not only is the payoff kinda niche since not many would specifically search for tank raised ones (maybe what happened to the harlequin shrimp cause their target demographics are niche too) but catching them isn't concerning as their population is pretty stable and you don't have to wait for their growth past the 'getting them to live' stage. The odd rare case where someone manages to have a pair accidentally breed and the babies accidentally survive and grow, usually they decide to keep them cause hey, free CuC for them and its unlikely they'd rear a large sellable quantity, more likely they get 1 or 2.

 

[Fakegolfnews]

Snails are easy to breed, keeping them alive to sale is a different story.

Actually a lot of animals in this hobby are easy to get spawning, what happens past that point is where the difficulty comes in because in most cases either they're;

A) cannibalistic in their 'larvae stage' (a lot of crustaceans will just eat whatever small organism is floating around with them, especially predatory ones) and separation is very unrealistic/difficult to maintain.

B) incredibly fragile, not just to water quality but easily destroyed by equipment, high flow, etc.

C) opposite of A, extremely picky and not easy to sustain food wise or have a very hard to work around diet swap as they age. (harlequin shrimp come to mind, it was recently achieved a few years ago and sold but it's been radio silent on that breeding project for some time now and haven't seen any in-stock, its unlikely your average hobbyist could achieve that.)

D) randomly flip the switch on what living conditions they need. Usually the case for freshwater/terrestrial invertebrates, your land hermit crabs aren't captive bred outside of maybe one or two individuals that went all out with it, (and this is something that is desperately in need of captive breeding for how many are killed from misinformation and being treated like throw away pets despite being very long living.) Jellyfish also come to mind because they go through several stages so typically you'd only see public aquariums or jellyfish specialist doing breeding projects with them.

When you factor everything in, you then get to the ultimate question; "is this even worth breeding with moderate success compared to catching them?". For threatened species (like clownfish at the time because their population was rapidly declining since... finding nemo.) their payoff for tank raising is not only massively profitable but also prevents a long term issue down the road. Jellyfish are hard to come across but since they're so short lived its more beneficial for public aquariums to breed in-house them than search and pay for replacements they might never find, especially with rare ones, while jellyfish specialist selling them profit off the fact they do need replaced and even if their demographic is niche they rotate their stock fast.

Now trochus snails, speaking purely hypothetically, not only is the payoff kinda niche since not many would specifically search for tank raised ones (maybe what happened to the harlequin shrimp cause their target demographics are niche too) but catching them isn't concerning as their population is pretty stable and you don't have to wait for their growth past the 'getting them to live' stage. The odd rare case where someone manages to have a pair accidentally breed and the babies accidentally survive and grow, usually they decide to keep them cause hey, free CuC for them and its unlikely they'd rear a large sellable quantity, more likely they get 1 or 2.

I managed to do all that without checking my alk for 18 months. I have hundreds of 1/4" babies in 17 gallons of water. I removed almost all the hermits and other cleanup crew a long time ago. I set up a tank to transfer them into. It's 1.2 gallons and it's on the cou ter in my kitchen that gets cleaning products all over and around it. They are happy and growing in there too. Temp was 84 in there yesterday. Banded trochus are bulletproof. Lots of theorizing in your post,hope tou feel smart.

 

[gamble819]

I see many posts where people have baby Trochus snails spawn in their tanks.
But I have not seen anyone selling them on reef2reef. Is there any reason why?
They usually run for 4-5 dollars per one snail, and I thought it would be nice if I could buy from people who have too much babies for less.
Anyone?

I managed to do all that without checking my alk for 18 months. I have hundreds of 1/4" babies in 17 gallons of water. I removed almost all the hermits and other cleanup crew a long time ago. I set up a tank to transfer them into. It's 1.2 gallons and it's on the cou ter in my kitchen that gets cleaning products all over and around it. They are happy and growing in there too. Temp was 84 in there yesterday. Banded trochus are bulletproof. Lots of theorizing in your post,hope tou feel smart.

I have hundreds as well. Willing to part with them for just shipping costs. I have trouble with having too many.


Temp around 79degF. Started with 10 adult trochus and 10 adult hermits. I've already given away 3 batches of 30 baby snails. They are about the size of a cheerio right now.

I have so many they are not growing fast. I threw 5 or so in my smaller 13.5 and they got to about the size of a nickel in a few months while the other tank was much slower..