Diagnosis help - Clownfish distress / potential 2nd failed fallow

[playgolf]

Hello,
I have found this site as helpful information source for the FOWLR tank I've been trying to maintain for the past 13 months or so. I've recently restocked (14 days with pre-quarantined fish from dr reefs) after a 2nd fallow period where I maintained 80 degree temps, with regular disturbance of sand and about 90 total days with no fish in tank. Suddenly, I'm seeing some disturbing behavior / symptoms from in particular the orange clownfish. There is white velvetish skin on the back half of body (only visible at certain angles as fish angles away, etc) Some occasional flicking/flashing against rock/sand bottom from both orange and black clowns and some fraying on ends of fins.

I'm hoping for some help with accurate diagnosis so I can try to take right course of action.

For reference - 20 gallon FOWLR with - 1 royal gramma, 1 orange clown, 1 black clown - multiple invertebrates (pistol shrimp, cleaner shrimp, trochus, nassarius, astrea, cerith snails)

I've attached two videos - one under normal lighting, one with white only light. Would really appreciate assistance in accurate diagnosis/recommendations.
Thank you

 

[vetteguy53081]

Hello,
I have found this site as helpful information source for the FOWLR tank I've been trying to maintain for the past 13 months or so. I've recently restocked (14 days with pre-quarantined fish from dr reefs) after a 2nd fallow period where I maintained 80 degree temps, with regular disturbance of sand and about 90 total days with no fish in tank. Suddenly, I'm seeing some disturbing behavior / symptoms from in particular the orange clownfish. There is white velvetish skin on the back half of body (only visible at certain angles as fish angles away, etc) Some occasional flicking/flashing against rock/sand bottom from both orange and black clowns and some fraying on ends of fins.

I'm hoping for some help with accurate diagnosis so I can try to take right course of action.

For reference - 20 gallon FOWLR with - 1 royal gramma, 1 orange clown, 1 black clown - multiple invertebrates (pistol shrimp, cleaner shrimp, trochus, nassarius, astrea, cerith snails)

I've attached two videos - one under normal lighting, one with white only light. Would really appreciate assistance in accurate diagnosis/recommendations.
Thank you

Seeing both videos, the discoloration suggests early stage brook. If true, you will see elevated breathing developing, loss of appetite, lethargic behavior as well as weird swim pattern, none that I notice in videos. You can safely add ruby Rally Pro to tank as it addresses many clown issues

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Hello,
I have found this site as helpful information source for the FOWLR tank I've been trying to maintain for the past 13 months or so. I've recently restocked (14 days with pre-quarantined fish from dr reefs) after a 2nd fallow period where I maintained 80 degree temps, with regular disturbance of sand and about 90 total days with no fish in tank. Suddenly, I'm seeing some disturbing behavior / symptoms from in particular the orange clownfish. There is white velvetish skin on the back half of body (only visible at certain angles as fish angles away, etc) Some occasional flicking/flashing against rock/sand bottom from both orange and black clowns and some fraying on ends of fins.

I'm hoping for some help with accurate diagnosis so I can try to take right course of action.

For reference - 20 gallon FOWLR with - 1 royal gramma, 1 orange clown, 1 black clown - multiple invertebrates (pistol shrimp, cleaner shrimp, trochus, nassarius, astrea, cerith snails)

I've attached two videos - one under normal lighting, one with white only light. Would really appreciate assistance in accurate diagnosis/recommendations.
Thank you

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

The fallow period that you ran would be effective against ich, velvet and flukes. I don't think that your new fish picked any of those diseases up from your existing tank.

How long have you had the clownfish?
Have you seen an mucus/stringy feces?
Is the gramma scratching or showing any symptoms? (they are prone to flukes).

In looking at the videos, I can also see possible Brooklynella. There is also a chance that the orange clown has an internal issue, either a virus or coccidia. Neither of these issues are easily cleared by standard quarantine processes - the typical copper/prazi QT doesn't treat Brooklynella, and nothing really treat Coccidia or viruses.

 

[playgolf]

Welcome to Reef2Reef!

The fallow period that you ran would be effective against ich, velvet and flukes. I don't think that your new fish picked any of those diseases up from your existing tank.

How long have you had the clownfish?
Have you seen an mucus/stringy feces?
Is the gramma scratching or showing any symptoms? (they are prone to flukes).

In looking at the videos, I can also see possible Brooklynella. There is also a chance that the orange clown has an internal issue, either a virus or coccidia. Neither of these issues are easily cleared by standard quarantine processes - the typical copper/prazi QT doesn't treat Brooklynella, and nothing really treat Coccidia or viruses.

Approximately 17 days in the tank since shipment. Initially saw some stringy feces, but was under impression that might be from the QT process done at vendor before they shipped. That seemed to subside after few days. Gramma has seemed fine, no symptoms or scratching that I have seen. I did a freshwater bath today to try to alleviate some stress since we are snowed in and nothing open. After the dip, I took some video of orange clown in an isolated chamber within display tank. I will post that video here, as it gives a little better look than what I posted previously as it is closer and he cant swim away.

 

[playgolf]

Approximately 17 days in the tank since shipment. Initially saw some stringy feces, but was under impression that might be from the QT process done at vendor before they shipped. That seemed to subside after few days. Gramma has seemed fine, no symptoms or scratching that I have seen. I did a freshwater bath today to try to alleviate some stress since we are snowed in and nothing open. After the dip, I took some video of orange clown in an isolated chamber within display tank. I will post that video here, as it gives a little better look than what I posted previously as it is closer and he cant swim away.

This video was immediately after freshwater bath, fyi.

 

[playgolf]

Seeing both videos, the discoloration suggests early stage brook. If true, you will see elevated breathing developing, loss of appetite, lethargic behavior as well as weird swim pattern, none that I notice in videos. You can safely add ruby Rally Pro to tank as it addresses many clown issues

Thanks for this reply. With the snow storm, I'm unable to get to fish store to locate - I did freshwater dip to buy some time. I will try to locate what you suggest when I can get back out

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Approximately 17 days in the tank since shipment. Initially saw some stringy feces, but was under impression that might be from the QT process done at vendor before they shipped. That seemed to subside after few days. Gramma has seemed fine, no symptoms or scratching that I have seen. I did a freshwater bath today to try to alleviate some stress since we are snowed in and nothing open. After the dip, I took some video of orange clown in an isolated chamber within display tank. I will post that video here, as it gives a little better look than what I posted previously as it is closer and he cant swim away.

O.K., thanks for the additional info. I do think that this is Brooklynella.......