If you don’t want to tear down your tank, get a positive id with a microscope, start dosing that neophos you have, treat according to species. Everything you have done has been ineffective because you still had bottomed out phosphate.
Thanks so much for the explanation of RIP cleaning. Just a few questions.Look at post 863 @ChrisP
New dry sand right from bag and into bucket of water. so glad I rinsed the sand before putting into the tank!! Took 2 hrs to rinse out to mosty clear. see the tag? Pre-washed and minimum rinse required!!!? Lolwww.reef2reef.com
dinos cannot beat that. It’s the strongest cyano and dino control method available
it’s just hard to run in large tanks, in small tanks it’s as easy as pie
As you can see, nearly all those are large tanks and few are small easy ones, that collection was resolved folks they didn’t care how big the tank was at all, they took the clinch win.
if you take the average price of a large reef tank and multiply it out 45 pages, you have examples of rip cleans worth two million dollars right there in that link.
we never lose a single tank.
this is the step:
take tank apart and set corals and rocks to the side or in a bucket of clean holding water
take the sand into a bucket and tap rinse it with a hose for an hour until it’s 100% clear
then rinse it again, we said 100% clear, final rinse in ro water to evacuate tap. Your sand is now dino free
you can spray peroxide on the rocks emerged outside the tank, avoiding corals, let sit a minute then swish off rocks in clean holding water to jet off killed dinos cells
see how that’s opposite from dosing peroxide
then reassemble the reef with all new water, rip clean done. Of course it doesn’t cause harm it causes the after pics we collect for years. take an hour, read more than one example past Aquamans work, be familiar with reef tank surgery then do it
youll likely need to siphon out regrowth in a couple weeks to hand guide it like a garden, since following large tankers rules has seated the dinos into every crevice, but that nano will never be invaded again.
the price of rip cleans saving reefs is we have to take pics of the steps so I can use them in that thread and everyone has a comparative example to work from to match their tank, to help others. Take good pics of all the work
we didn’t use bottle bac at all, for six years there, because we don’t need bottle bac after a cycle that’s what trained buyers do. In that thread, we take command for free.
light peroxide spray onto rocks does not kill the filtration bacteria, and sandbed bacteria are not important in any reef they’re mere tolerable bioload we can rip away any time we want
that would sound like a crazy man claim were it not fully proven above w pics and eight month outcome tracking for some reefs there
Thanks again for your help Brandon!
read this one
1.yes thats an option. pre rinse all new sand in tap, then ro, just the same, find no reason to skip that process. if you are installing sand its pre rinsed to cloudless perfection.
2. you'll have to decide on nudis vs total tank command in two hours.
3. that link above is what you should copy, look at the doubt written by others for the procedure vs the outcome, and updates.
4. seachem matrix biomedia is not required or integral in any possible reef setting. it is literally neutral impact, to remove it does not shortchange the system on surface area whatsoever, we could remove it, not put it back, remove your whole sandbed, not put it back, and your tank will look like above. If you want to add the matrix back you can, as its neutral. your system doesnt care if its there or not.
KP aquatics 23lbs in a 20 gallon tank. No dry rock, I used bagged live sand which I replaced a few times.What brand did you use? And how much?? Did you also use dry?Thanks
I had dinos with kp for about a week. I documented it in my build thread. Now zero. Odd you had a different experience.KP aquatics 23lbs in a 20 gallon tank. No dry rock, I used bagged live sand which I replaced a few times.
The rock was definitely covered with life. I got live crabs, urchins, tunicates, Coraline, a lightbulb anemone, feather dusters, fire worms and bristle worms, multiple green algae, etc.
Possible causes: dinos introduced from a frag, I added macro algae because it looked cool and it dropped the nutrients to zero, hair algae introduced by a frag dropped nutrients.