Discrepancies in side-by-side ICP-OES

[ReneReef]

Test Inductively Coupled Plasma, it is us Australians we do everything backwards or
it could have resulted from the way it started in Australia the only test available for years was Trition, and so Triton Inductively Coupled Plasma, or TICP
The TCIP was a mistype on my part, I'm not perfect, and I get ticked off when I see misrepresentation

Oké, thanks! Good to know that all your remarks are about Triton ICP specifically, not ICP testing in general.

And at least you were consistent in using the same typo in all of your 18 posts on the topic since Monday…. You must be having a tough week for a scientist to misspell the thing you are an expert in for days on end.

Take care!

 

[Mike Sydney]

Oké, thanks! Good to know that all your remarks are about Triton ICP specifically, not ICP testing in general.

And at least you were consistent in using the same typo in all of your 18 posts on the topic since Monday…. You must be having a tough week for a scientist to misspell the thing you are an expert in for days on end.

Take care!

They are not specific remarks about Triton I have had the same with another test company using the same equipment. My remarks were about the false detection of metals, the inert metal oxides can be reported due to the testing as the metal itself. This is due to poor sample preparation prior to testing, where the sample has not been filtered adequately to remove inert oxide particles

 

[Mike Sydney]

They are not specific remarks about Triton I have had the same with another test company using the same equipment. My remarks were about the false detection of metals, the inert metal oxides can be reported due to the testing as the metal itself. This is due to poor sample preparation prior to testing, where the sample has not been filtered adequately to remove inert oxide particles

Oké, thanks! Good to know that all your remarks are about Triton ICP specifically, not ICP testing in general.

And at least you were consistent in using the same typo in all of your 18 posts on the topic since Monday…. You must be having a tough week for a scientist to misspell the thing you are an expert in for days on end.

Take care!

I'm not Dutch, but I can make mistakes like typos occasionally.
And here's me thinking you were being nice, lol
Anyway no problem your thanks for bringing this important flaw in ICP testing to your attention is appreciated

 

[Mike Sydney]

I'm not Dutch, but I can make mistakes like typos occasionally.
And here's me thinking you were being nice, lol
Anyway no problem your thanks for bringing this important flaw in ICP testing to your attention is appreciated

We had a saying where I worked, I will share it!
If it's not Dutch it ain't much! lol

 

[Mike Sydney]

We had a saying where I worked, I will share it!
If it's not Dutch it ain't much! lol

 

[Mike Sydney]

They are not specific remarks about Triton I have had the same with another test company using the same equipment. My remarks were about the false detection of metals, the inert metal oxides can be reported due to the testing as the metal itself. This is due to poor sample preparation prior to testing, where the sample has not been filtered adequately to remove inert oxide particles

My personal view is an ICP test for a home reef aquarium is killing a mouse with a howitzer. It's for people too lazy to do a water change, or with too much money, but not enough for a Ferrari, or for people with lots of boredom.
It might make sense for a public aquarium or a large-scale coral or fish farm.
But for a home aquarium, nah, its ridiculous

 

[Mike Sydney]

If you find my reply challenging sit down and count to ten, maybe eat some Poffertjes and have a coffee

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

If you find my reply challenging sit down and count to ten, maybe eat some Poffertjes and have a coffee

It’s not a particularly unusual opinion. Reef2Reef members have a wide range of opinions in the usefulness of icp, from a waste of time and money to an important tool they use every month with methods like Moonshiners.

There are plenty of ways to keep reef tanks, with or without icp.

 

[Mike Sydney]

It’s not a particularly unusual opinion. Reef2Reef members have a wide range of opinions in the usefulness of icp, from a waste of time and money to an important tool they use every month with methods like Moonshiners.

There are plenty of ways to keep reef tanks, with or without icp.

I am a moonshiner and I have not used ICP for 3 years now, without issues , even slight

 

[ReneReef]

My personal view is an ICP test for a home reef aquarium is killing a mouse with a howitzer. It's for people too lazy to do a water change, or with too much money, but not enough for a Ferrari, or for people with lots of boredom.
It might make sense for a public aquarium or a large-scale coral or fish farm.
But for a home aquarium, nah, its ridiculous

If you find my reply challenging sit down and count to ten, maybe eat some Poffertjes and have a coffee

Ah, there we have it. Finally, your actual view on the matter. You’ve been on a four day tantrum and finally got it out.

Get yourself some stroopwafels, you must be exhausted by now.

No need for me to sit down. It is a perfectly fine opinion. I agree that people trust ICP too much.
But that hold true to a lot of things in this hobby. Like trusting home test kits to always give a valid reading. And folks blindly trusting fantastical claims they read on bottles of vague additives.

Glad I to have been of help.
Is was fun!

 

[Mike Sydney]

Ah, there we have it. Finally, your actual view on the matter. You’ve been on a four day tantrum and finally got it out.

Get yourself some stroopwafels, you must be exhausted by now.

No need for me to sit down. It is a perfectly fine opinion. I agree that people trust ICP too much.
But that hold true to a lot of things in this hobby. Like trusting home test kits to always give a valid reading. And folks blindly trusting fantastical claims they read on bottles of vague additives.

Glad I to have been of help.
Is was fun!

Now you are talking!
I have same thoughts, I only trust Red Sea Pro Titration tests, and Hanna instruments (calibrated, if you cannot calibrate it is worthless), and if I get a weird result I retest before I act.
So you see maybe we are not that far apart after all.