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Is it worth it to do a diy led setup when you can get a led light off of eBay cheaper?

What would be a reason to go with a diy led light setup over one you can buy already built?
 

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With technology as far along as it is. IMO, No, it is not worth building your own light. I've built a few fixtures and no longer have them over my tank. I have an upgraded version of E-bay lights over my tanks. Since they are cheap however, they do not last as long as a high quality fixture.
 
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That's what I was thinking because what I would pay just for the leds I could even go up one step up from the cheap led lights.
 

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yes dont do it. I've built several DIY led light myself over the last 5 years. spent so much money but now sitting there.
so I would advise not taking the DIY route. good luck
 

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DIY is perfect for people who loves to build stuff.
I feel if you are one of these that loves to build then go for it!
You will learn more about led chips and become knowledge in this area.
 

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Do LEDS Have to go through a driver than a power supply? Or can it just go into a power supply? I don't understand how I would conceal 5 6" drivers, a power supply and dimming switches
 
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The way I understand it you would need a driver every so many lights I think it's six or so and then you would go into a power supply
 

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it depends on the driver you use. some drivers can push 3-5 lights but theyre small and the size of a relay, some can push 30+
 
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But what it comes down to is how much you really want to spend
 

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Do LEDS Have to go through a driver than a power supply? Or can it just go into a power supply? I don't understand how I would conceal 5 6" drivers, a power supply and dimming switches

Or is there a super driver that I don't know about out there
LDD drivers seem to be the go to drivers for diyers. Add a controller, heat sinks, pcb and led's and all the other pieces and it adds up fast. I'm just starting to build my light and have had second thoughts. Google ldd drivers and ldd pcb and you'll find a lot of info. O2surplus makes some great boards.
 

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When LEDs first came out I thought about doing a DIY. but I would never do one now. You are better off buying one that is already made. Your not going to save much money by making them and lets face it DIY's are not aesthetically pleasing.
 
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It will cost $500+ to build what you can get of ebay for about $150
 

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DIY LEDs are not about saving money up front as they were a while back, but if all costs are factored in over say, 5 years of operation, then it's a different story. Since one can use the best/most efficient LEDs from the most reputable manufacturers (typically not a feature of most commercial units). Thus a properly designed DIY array will almost certainly outlast any cheap commercial unit while using much less electricty (comparing similar output intensities).

As mentioned, DIY is a great way to learn about the technology, light spectrum needed for corals, etc. One can also customize LED emitters and optics 'on the fly' as everything isn't built into a pre-manufactured unit as is typical in store bought units. This allows for much greater flexibility in regards to changing the light field's appearance to suit one's taste (after providing the spectra needed for coral health and coloration). Also allows for experimentation using newly released LEDs that aren't yet used in commercial units. On the flip side, an aesthetically pleasing DIY fixture is indeed a challenge to achieve.

Bottom line, if one is a certified tinkerer and enjoys a challenge, or one isn't pleased with the commercial units available, then DIY can be a good way to go.
 
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The LDD Drivers rock. With a 48VDC Powersupply each $7 driver can drive 15 Cree X Series LEDs.

I've evaluated a few different EBay Fixtures and they scare me. Power Supplies without UL Listing or even a part number.

The 3 watt LEDs are dated. The Latest Binned Cree XT-E can be 3 times brighter.

I'm actually surprised some people have these fixtures last over 18 months. I've seen way to many fail after a year.

DIY is a little more expensive but if you have chosen the best parts you will have a superior fixture that is easily repairable. Some of our fixtures are going on 6 years without a problem. others have needed a simple driver replacement after 4 years.

Assuming a cheap ebay fixture is 1/2 the price or $199 with a warranty of only 1 year you can build a DIY Fixture that is twice as bright, lasts twice as long and is controllable for less than $400 add solderless connectors for $0.88 per LED and you have the flexibility to swap out LEDs.

I just spent over $300 on a few ORA Frags. By the time I'm done stocking my tank I will have thousands in corals and the time needed for them to grow.

The last thing I want to do is stress them out replacing a Cheap Import Fixture that failed after only a year. Sometimes "disposable" costs more...

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Are the 3 watt Cree less in Amazon anygood? I could just replace the Chinese led diodes with new less and that should fix the brightness right?
 

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It depends.

For the Cree X there are 5 different intensity bins with the lowest almost 40% dimmer given the same current. There are also 28 different colour bins with some being rather yellowish.

I would go with the latest Cree 5 watt XT-E or 3 Watt XP-E2 you will notice the difference and the difference should be less than $.50 a LED given the Amazon ones are not counterfeit.

Bill
 

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