Dumb Mistake Caused A Dino Outbreak

[RMS18]

Amphidinium don't respond as well to UV since they mainly stay in the sand. But, I've read they do come into the water column at night time somewhat. I've been battling them for the past year and finally have them under control.

One year!!! Ohh my lol.

 

[RMS18]

Has anyone tried the silicon dosing?

 

[Tyler Sheley]

I'm inclined to think that may be the source of your problem.



I can see making the dry rock cycle part of a new tank. I once made the mistake of adding new pieces of dry rock to my tank. What a nightmare... LOL

Why is adding dry rock to an established tank bad? What happens?

 

[dwest]

Has anyone tried the silicon dosing?

A somewhat shorter dino thread focused on amphidinium is below. I removed my sand and kept UV going in my tank to get rid of mine (while maintaining measurable phosphates and nitrates). However, IMO your tank shot might be chrysophytes. No motion makes me have strong suspicions against dinos.

Amphidinium Dinoflagellate Treatment Methods

This thread is a spin-off from the @mcarroll very successful Dino thread The purpose is to discuss methods for removal and fighting against a particular strain of dinoflagellate - Large Cell Amphidinium. It seems to make up about a third of the cases of dinos. The reason this strain gets its...

www.reef2reef.com

 

[dwest]

Has anyone tried the silicon dosing?

To make a long story short, I dosed my 10 gallon frag quarantine tank with sponge excel. That, no sand, and a small UV sterilizer keeps them at very low numbers. More in the thread above.

 

[RMS18]

A somewhat shorter dino thread focused on amphidinium is below. I removed my sand and kept UV going in my tank to get rid of mine (while maintaining measurable phosphates and nitrates). However, IMO your tank shot might be chrysophytes. No motion makes me have strong suspicions against dinos.

Amphidinium Dinoflagellate Treatment Methods

This thread is a spin-off from the @mcarroll very successful Dino thread The purpose is to discuss methods for removal and fighting against a particular strain of dinoflagellate - Large Cell Amphidinium. It seems to make up about a third of the cases of dinos. The reason this strain gets its...

www.reef2reef.com

I can do another scope tommorow and take a sample from the brown strands in DT and clear strands in sump.

These are the clear strands in the sump. There is no sump light btw. No Fuge.

 

[Idoc]

One year!!! Ohh my lol.

Yep, it sucked. But, I just went the natural route and raised no3 and po4, added some pods, added microbacter7, dosed 2 bottles of silica in spongexcel (and never did see a diatom bloom) and cleaned regularly.

 

[dwest]

Yep, it sucked. But, I just went the natural route and raised no3 and po4, added some pods, added microbacter7, and cleaned regularly.

Did you keep your sand?

 

[RMS18]

A somewhat shorter dino thread focused on amphidinium is below. I removed my sand and kept UV going in my tank to get rid of mine (while maintaining measurable phosphates and nitrates). However, IMO your tank shot might be chrysophytes. No motion makes me have strong suspicions against dinos.

Amphidinium Dinoflagellate Treatment Methods

This thread is a spin-off from the @mcarroll very successful Dino thread The purpose is to discuss methods for removal and fighting against a particular strain of dinoflagellate - Large Cell Amphidinium. It seems to make up about a third of the cases of dinos. The reason this strain gets its...

www.reef2reef.com

Definitely not chrysophytes I saw nothing that looked like little lines on each side of the cells.

 

[dwest]

I can do another scope tommorow and take a sample from the brown strands in DT and clear strands in sump.

These are the clear strands in the sump. There is no sump light btw. No Fuge.

Will keep my eye out. Will be traveling the next few days though...

 

[Idoc]

Did you keep your sand?

Yes, kept my sand since i have a diamond goby. I did start something a little different and cleaned portions of my sand. I sucked out sand where the dinos were still forming (probably only a cup or 2 at a time)... soaked the sand in tap water to destroy the dino's cell walls...and rinsed that sand with hydrogen peroxide... let that sand dry out and sprinkled it back into the tank. This seemed to work very well to clear out the small remaining pockets of them.

 

[RMS18]

Yep, it sucked. But, I just went the natural route and raised no3 and po4, added some pods, added microbacter7, dosed 2 bottles of silica in spongexcel (and never did see a diatom bloom) and cleaned regularly.

I do have lots of bacteria on its way. Nuritrents are not low. The silica was the spongexcel?

 

[RMS18]

What's everyone's thoughts on vacuuming the sand and the water that I pull out I run through the UV and back into the tank?

 

[Idoc]

I do have lots of bacteria on its way. Nuritrents are not low. The silica was the spongexcel?

Yes, i dosed spongeexcel. I never saw a diatom bloom, though! I still squirt in a couple droppers full of silica every few days or so. I started out measuring out 30 drops of silica per day and then just started squirting some in regularly, lol. That was much faster.

 

[vetteguy53081]

They do come out at night.
Air bubbles cause the strands to lift and head for sump.

 

[RMS18]

Last night I did a good cleaning. Sand was white, rocks were scrubbed.

Today the Dino's are already showing and I only have actinics on today. The few frags I have are starting to suffer. Colors are fading, pe is not happening.

I just dosed Dr. Tim's Eco Balance and some IO bacteria. To help bring bacteria levels back.

UV didn't really help with these guys not sure they really come out at night. I have even shut off my moon lights.

I have some silica comming along with live phytoplankton and sea lettuce. Came across a thread where there was an article that sea lettuce may contain some chemicals that kill dinos. Not sure about this but worth a try.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Last night I did a good cleaning. Sand was white, rocks were scrubbed.

Today the Dino's are already showing and I only have actinics on today. The few frags I have are starting to suffer. Colors are fading, pe is not happening.

I just dosed Dr. Tim's Eco Balance and some IO bacteria. To help bring bacteria levels back.

UV didn't really help with these guys not sure they really come out at night. I have even shut off my moon lights.

I have some silica comming along with live phytoplankton and sea lettuce. Came across a thread where there was an article that sea lettuce may contain some chemicals that kill dinos. Not sure about this but worth a try.

During treatment- NO lights or VERY VERY DIM

 

[RMS18]

On Wednesday night I did another manual cleaning, blew rocks off stirred the sand very well then immediately dose DinoX and a double dose of H202 with powerheads on full power.

The following morning I dosed lots of bacteria Dr. Tim's Eco Balance 2x dose. As well as IO Bacteria 1.5x dose.

I noticed a big changes in PH which was hitting 8.4+ during the highest point of the day with Dino's. I'm back to my normal 8.2 for the high point. Nothing else has changed, skimmer is one, lights are same setting. Not sure if this means anything but visually Dino's are not increasing.

Silica should be here today. Phytoplankton and sea lettuce Wednesday.

 

[RMS18]

Today is the first day with having the lights on outside the actinics in 2 days. Just dosed bacteria again. Using Dr. Tim's Eco Balance only at the moment. Also have waste away comming.

All frags are not happy and not looking good. Only the lobo is ok. Sea fans have not had open polyps in 2 weeks now.

Fingers crossed.

 

[RMS18]

After 8 hours of light I can see some Dino's starting to appear. This was excepted but I have to say I was expecting worse. I'm going to leave the tank alone until Monday. Then I'll syphon the bad spots, and scrub powerheads and rock again.