EMERGENCY: Doser dosed entire bottle of Phosphat-E

[Dom]

Water changes will be helpful, but won’t readily solve the issue of lots of excess lanthanum in the water.

I've always taken the conservative approach to crisis.

 

[TCoach]

Ok, Sodium Phosphate came in today. Just tested the water to get a baseline before dosing and numbers looks good.

pH: 8.41
Salinity: 33.6 - A little low, will work on slow correction.
Alk: 9.2
Ca: 502 - Hanna Checker so probably high reading, but not crazy out of line if correct.
Nitrate: 12.7
Phosphate: 0.06

Given that I have good measurements on everything except salinity, I'm feeling I should not dose the phosphates. @Randy Holmes-Farley what are your thoughts on this?

Thanks,
-Chris

 

[Dburr1014]

Ok, Sodium Phosphate came in today. Just tested the water to get a baseline before dosing and numbers looks good.

pH: 8.41
Salinity: 33.6 - A little low, will work on slow correction.
Alk: 9.2
Ca: 502 - Hanna Checker so probably high reading, but not crazy out of line if correct.
Nitrate: 12.7
Phosphate: 0.06

Given that I have good measurements on everything except salinity, I'm feeling I should not dose the phosphates. @Randy Holmes-Farley what are your thoughts on this?

Thanks,
-Chris

Personally, with the rebound of phosphate that was locked up in the rock, I think you are right.
IMO, I would not dose either.
I would be sure to inspect the tank daily for a week or two and definatly take your tests every couple days to look for anything abnormal.

Good luck.

 

[ReeferHD]

I’m glad your tank pulled through!
What doser was it and do you know what caused it?

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

If the phosphate is on clear water and is accurate at 0.06 ppm, I'd probably not dose phosphate right now, but I'd watch it for a bit.

 

[TCoach]

Found the issue. My Kasa powerbar has an issue and was restarting a bunch it appeared. When it did this, it caused the doser to start dosing. I'm guessing it was the last head to be used. Found this out this morning when I was in the office and kept hearing the Kalkwaser head turning on (it squeaks) but it was not dosing time.
(doser is Jebao 2.4 wifi)

 

[TCoach]

If the phosphate is on clear water and is accurate at 0.06 ppm, I'd probably not dose phosphate right now, but I'd watch it for a bit.

Yah, the water is really clear now.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Yah, the water is really clear now.

Sounds good. Keep us updated.

 

[TCoach]

Ok, tested this morning and Phosphate is at 0.0. Going to mix up a batch of the sodium phosphate and start dosing at 0.1 ppm per day. Planning on splitting into 24 1ml doses so I can slowly add over the course of the day.

 

[ReefingDreams]

Ok, tested this morning and Phosphate is at 0.0. Going to mix up a batch of the sodium phosphate and start dosing at 0.1 ppm per day. Planning on splitting into 24 1ml doses so I can slowly add over the course of the day.

I feel like you're putting too much trust into your doser. Might want to reconsider.

 

[Randy Holmes-Farley]

Ok, tested this morning and Phosphate is at 0.0. Going to mix up a batch of the sodium phosphate and start dosing at 0.1 ppm per day. Planning on splitting into 24 1ml doses so I can slowly add over the course of the day.

Sounds good.

 

[TCoach]

I feel like you're putting too much trust into your doser. Might want to reconsider.

Found out what the root cause was, and it is no longer being used.

 

[ReefingDreams]

Found out what the root cause was, and it is no longer being used.

Glad you did. But I'd still be a bit concerned that a power outage could cause further issues since the wifi strip turning off and on caused it the first time. I believe a number of other folks have had issues with the Jebao doser. To be clear, I love Jebao return pumps and power heads and run them on multiple systems. I am not a Jebao hater; far from it. I have a Jebao doser on the shelf from many years ago that I've been too chicken to use .

 

[jda]

The po4 inside of the rocks and deeper into the sand can take weeks to unbind with such slow water movement in those areas. I would test po4 for a week or two and then look at the trend - do not pay attention to a single low or high test result. At the end of 2 weeks, you could have plenty of po4 in the water.

 

[brandon429]

TCoach
did your corals lose any color/lighten/bleach at all or they held fine through the issue?

 

[brandon429]

somehow missed this thread until today. if I could have got in to post #2 I would have said: reduce your overall light power at the current spectrum by -30% right off the top. cloud simulation until you stabilize.

it's the strongest bleach protection trick I know during param insults. you'd be amazed at the % coral loss that is simple, stoppable sunburning

it's a powerful trick because you can run it on a perfectly fine reef tank without harm. no reef on the planet cares if some clouds pass overhead, for a while. used on a reef in distress, you can time it with strong feeding to heal corals quickly from insults in many cases where the bright unadjusted light burns them badly, sometimes unable to recover. if yours made it with no lightening phase then that's great, they have a solid foundation to weather some challenges. nice leadup growth was a strong insulator for them.

 

[TCoach]

TCoach
did your corals lose any color/lighten/bleach at all or they held fine through the issue?

The corals and inverts seemed to be fine and as far as I know, I did not lose any of them. In fact, I added corals the Saturday after the incident and they are fine too.

Only losses have been fish related.
1. Solarensis Wrasse - Found dead next day
2. Sunrise dotty back - Saw in death throws maybe 2 days afterwards and have not seen since
3. Clarkii clown - Died Tuesday I think - can't clearly link this one to the LC overdose. Had been off for more than a week and had moved out of its anemone.
4. Blue Tang - Had been moved to sump due to failed merge with my Yellow Belly Blue Tang. No injuries from the attempted merge, but I think passed from stress/Lymphosistis not LC.

Remaining fish:
1. Scopas Tang - Tends to hand out in return flow, so I think gills may have been impacted. Hoping they heal in time.
2. Yellow Belly Blue Tang - Seems fine
3. Bonded pair of Falco Hawkfish - Seem fine
4. Pair of PJ cardinals - Seem fine - Too dopey to notice anything anyways.
5. Coral Beauty - Seems fine
6. Aptasia File Fish - Seems fine

Inverts:
Maxima Clam - Seems fine. Was irritated the first day, but fine now.
Green BTA - Always seemed fine
Misc snails and hermits - no losses seen.
May have lost an urchin, but I think I have an aggressive hermit in the tank since I've seen the spines dropped/cut and also saw my 2 brittle stars get sliced up for dinner.
Just added a crew from Reef Cleaners today, so we'll see how they do. All snails with 3 emerald crabs.

Corals:
All seem fine (leathers, acans, frogspawn, torch, Milka Stylo, bubble corals, pipe organs, etc.
Photosynthetic Gargonia.

 

[TCoach]

Falcon’s hanging out. Excuse the cyano, tank is still maturing.

 

[TCoach]

somehow missed this thread until today. if I could have got in to post #2 I would have said: reduce your overall light power at the current spectrum by -30% right off the top. cloud simulation until you stabilize.

it's the strongest bleach protection trick I know during param insults. you'd be amazed at the % coral loss that is simple, stoppable sunburning

it's a powerful trick because you can run it on a perfectly fine reef tank without harm. no reef on the planet cares if some clouds pass overhead, for a while. used on a reef in distress, you can time it with strong feeding to heal corals quickly from insults in many cases where the bright unadjusted light burns them badly, sometimes unable to recover. if yours made it with no lightening phase then that's great, they have a solid foundation to weather some challenges. nice leadup growth was a strong insulator for them.

Running T5's on this tank instead of LEDs. .