eshopps eclipse m help

[badd]

I'm setting up my 72bf with a eshopps eclipse m overflow box.... the directions are kinda vague..

"The black box will be inside the tank as you fit the bulkhead through the hole. Next, take the remaining 2 rubber gaskets to place them on the bulkhead that's protruding through the back glass of the aquarium. Afterwards, slide on the clear box over the bulkhead from the opposite side of the aquarium glass and tighten with the lock nut to secure your black box and clear box."

Am I reading this right.. they want to 2 gaskets together on outside of glass? it only comes with 2 gaskets.. but it says take the 2 remaining gaskets? .. My feeble mind tells me it will leak like this.. someone educate me please :-)

 

[dbl]

There should be a bulkhead in the interior black box already. Put a gasket on the outside of that bulkhead, then through the glass, then the other gasket, then the the clear outer box, then the nut. So you end up in this order from inside the tank to outside.

Black box, gasket, glass, gasket, clear box, nut. Hand tighten firmly.

 

[badd]

There should be a bulkhead in the interior black box already. Put a gasket on the outside of that bulkhead, then through the glass, then the other gasket, then the the clear outer box, then the nut. So you end up in this order from inside the tank to outside.

Black box, gasket, glass, gasket, clear box, nut. Hand tighten firmly.

Thank you...
Figured that was the correct way..directions just dont read that way.

 

[superusername]

I found that part of the instructions confusing as well. I had never heard of putting 2 gaskets together. I would have instinctively put a gasket wherever there isn't a nut (i.e. just like dbl indicated), but my girlfriend thinks directions should be followed and not second-guessed... Thanks for the post.

On a related note: How high did you align the top of the inner black overflow box relative to the glass rim of the tank? (assuming rimless) Can it be flush to the top or should it be lower than that?

 

[smh254]

Make sure you install the black box on the inside all the way up. I've seen a lot of people use the template under the black trim and drill the holes. This will make the box on the inside sit too low.

 

[badd]

Make sure you install the black box on the inside all the way up. I've seen a lot of people use the template under the black trim and drill the holes. This will make the box on the inside sit too low.

Yes.. I installed it.. about 1/8 inch from top of plastic trim..seen a youtube video of that exact issue .. :-)

 

[Samsterr]

Hey OP I'm confused as hell too, I know this is an old thread, but how do you have the gaskets setup in what order and was there any leaking issues? I assumed out of common sense it would be in the order of weir box>gasket>glass(dry side? No need for gasket?)>external box>gasket>nut. Don't want to get my plumbing glued and have to deal with leaks. Thanks

 

[Big G]

Hey OP I'm confused as hell too, I know this is an old thread, but how do you have the gaskets setup in what order and was there any leaking issues? I assumed out of common sense it would be in the order of weir box>gasket>glass(dry side? No need for gasket?)>external box>gasket>nut. Don't want to get my plumbing glued and have to deal with leaks. Thanks

A gasket goes on each side of the glass. So its' Black Box>gasket>GLASS<gasket<Clear Box<Nut.

 

[Samsterr]

Isn't the gasket to prevent water from getting through? We never install gaskets to the dry side of bulkheads? so what prevents water from seeping through the nut on the external wet side? Or is the gasket just used to soften up the glass to acrylic?

A gasket goes on each side of the glass. So its' Black Box>gasket>GLASS<gasket<Clear Box<Nut.

 

[Samsterr]

I guess that sounds most logical because the nut would prolly distort the gasket, so weir box>gasket>glass<gasket<external box< nut, guess that's works and seems like OP didn't complain bout leaks. Thanks!!

 

[Big G]

Forgive me I'm getting old and forgetful. Forget what I posted. I pulled out my old box instructions from Eshopps and yes. You put 2 washers on each bulkhead on the outside of the glass. I completely forgot that this confused me a bit too and I contacted Eshopps to confirm. Here's a video showing how to do it as Eshopps instructs. Sorry for the confusion. :confused:

 

[Big G]

Isn't the gasket to prevent water from getting through? We never install gaskets to the dry side of bulkheads? so what prevents water from seeping through the nut on the external wet side? Or is the gasket just used to soften up the glass to acrylic?

Check my update on the thread. Sorry for the confusion.

 

[Big G]

I'm setting up my 72bf with a eshopps eclipse m overflow box.... the directions are kinda vague..

"The black box will be inside the tank as you fit the bulkhead through the hole. Next, take the remaining 2 rubber gaskets to place them on the bulkhead that's protruding through the back glass of the aquarium. Afterwards, slide on the clear box over the bulkhead from the opposite side of the aquarium glass and tighten with the lock nut to secure your black box and clear box."

Am I reading this right.. they want to 2 gaskets together on outside of glass? it only comes with 2 gaskets.. but it says take the 2 remaining gaskets? .. My feeble mind tells me it will leak like this.. someone educate me please :)

Here's a video of the way Eshopps instructions are demonstrated.

 

[Samsterr]

That's what I got from the instructions, but it doesn't seem right that we need to double up the gasket? I guess I'll just install it like that and water test it, and if it doesn't leak then we're good to go, thank you. Or better yet if someone remembers how they installed it and no leaking issues would be great! Ohh and I've been looking at ghost overflows they place the gaskets on wet side of tank which makes me believe the instructions are bad, but since you said you've spoken with eshopps I guess it should be correct.

 

[Samsterr]

This definetly seems more legit, and logical. Think I'm go with what we started with LOL thanks for the help, but that was the video that also confused the crap out of me because it's what I got from the eshopps instructions. I think I was better off not doubling checking and doubting myself haha. Thanks a lot for you time Big G!!!

 

[Big G]

This definetly seems more legit, and logical. Think I'm go with what we started with LOL thanks for the help, but that was the video that also confused the crap out of me because it's what I got from the eshopps instructions. I think I was better off not doubling checking and doubting myself haha. Thanks a lot for you time Big G!!!

Hand tight is kinda vague as well. When I filled my tank, I had to tighten the bulkhead nuts a bit more and they have been perfect ever since. I really like my Eshopps Eclipse (L) and my Eshopps RS-200 sump. Sorry again for the confusion. Best of luck with your system. Cheers!

 

[Samsterr]

I'm okay with the hand tight part, but they should have included a diagram or some sort to their instructions cause what I thought the instructions meant, was to double up the gaskets both on the outside of tank and external box. which didn't make any sense at all. I'm setting up a 40b and have the (L)internal box hugging the top of the rim. I hope the water lines not going to be too low, the teeths on the weir are 2" deep, and I'm assuming when waters running, the water line will be around 1" or middle of the teeths. I think I'll be left with water line 1/2" to 3/4" under the rim. The overflow looks really good for the price, but I think the design was really meant for rimless tanks.

 

[Big G]

Yes and yes. I have a 90 gal rimmed tank and mounted the internal box just under the rim overhang. At first I thought it would bother me a lot to have the water line about 1/2" below the black rim bottom edge. But it looks fine. And I'm thinking that with the rim's lip, I'll have a bit more splash protection when I get a wave system going. And yes, I really like the flush fit of the internal box against the glass. None of the other overflows fit that sleek and smooth. Best of luck with your build. Enjoy! Cheers!

 

[Big G]

Yes and yes. I have a 90 gal rimmed tank and mounted the internal box just under the rim overhang. At first I thought it would bother me a lot to have the water line about 1/2" below the black rim bottom edge. But it looks fine. And I'm thinking that with the rim's lip, I'll have a bit more splash protection when I get a wave system going. And yes, I really like the flush fit of the internal box against the glass. None of the other overflows fit that sleek and smooth. Best of luck with your build. Enjoy! Cheers!

 

[CowabungaReefer]

I am just about to install this (been sitting in a box for two months so I’m stuck with it) and can see as well that there is no way to mount the wet side over flow box so that the waterline is at the height of the black trim like most everyone would actually want. I emailed eshopps but haven’t gotten a response. This overflow is either designed for a rimless tank or it’s a serious design flaw imo. I don’t expect them to have a solution for me so I was planning to modify it. Wanted some feedback on what you all think. I was planning on cutting a piece of acrylic and placing it inside the teeth of the box blocking the lower portion of the teeth, raising the waterline to where it should be. This will obviously cut the flow rate down significantly. To resolve that I was going to cut the teeth up through the top of the box like every standard overflow box has done. This would regain the flow area lost by putting the acrylic in place. Does that sound like the best solution or do some of you have other better ways? Thanks!