First tank of any kind (~250l)

Tank choice

  • Red sea reefer 300XL

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Waterbox 100.3

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Whatever cheapo 2nd hand tank i can find

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Other

    Votes: 1 11.1%

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I have started down the road to my first aquarium of any kind.
Starting out with a saltwater tank is jumping into the deep end but this is what my heart beets for ever since first snorkling a reef at the age of 11.

My plan was to do this on the cheap despite all of the warnings from everyone that this hobby is the same as lighting money on fire.
Here is a running tally of my costs so far. I have decided to not include electricity and stuff i can definitely use if i quit (such as power strips).

Costs are in SEK which is about 9.5 SEK per USD right now.

Main tank
Light5770
Fuge light500
Return pump200
powerhead200
heater75
Gravel vac0
rock600
rodi1000
Di resin cartridge600
heater controller400
Salinity test1099
Flipper400
sand600
2 75l buckets440
lid610
rodi stuff600
Fan300
more glue1250
Epoxy440
Filter bagx2120
Turkey baster120
Bonecutter350
Egg crate200
Ato tunze1850
Ato container163
Feeding clip55
Feeding pipette40
Microfiber cloth50
Glass cleaner cloth100
Hose264
Clamps150
Auto feeder395
Claw0

QT
40l bucket + lid107
40l bucket + lid107
medicine163
quarantine tank inverts250
qt heater x375
qt filter invert299
qt powerhead x2400
Slw-10 jebao800
scraper qt invert123
disposable air stones20
air pump300
air pump hose36
Coral dip200
QT Light500
PVC48
Coral dip buckets15
hydrogen peroxide bath bucket5
gloves100
Gravel vac0
measuring cups15
Spawning box89
Net cage59

Livestock
emerald crab250
conch195
trochus snails150
nassarius snails150
red/blue hermit crabs150
Cleaner shrimp245
Cerith snails150
Live rock100
Rhodactis x3600
Candy cane x3400
Paraancora Euphyllia200
Frogspawn Euphyllia250
Gonipora200
GSP50
Sarchophyton100
Clavularia x2450
Zoas x2400
Peppermint shrimp250

Food
Food577
Mysis freeze dried 1kg800
Clams50
Octopus100
Reef energy450
Nori sheet100

Consumables
salt999
activated carbon40
Di resin400
Amonium test kit250
Alk test kit105
Ph test kit89
Nitrate test hanna hr1000
phosphate test1000
starter bacteria + amoniak134
AF life source250
Fosfor remover159
Magnesium test kit165
Bicarbonate165
Magnesium0
Calcium0
Citric acid350
Velcro bands100
Cable clips100
Filter floss80

Cost for the main tank right now (without an actual tank!!): 18941 SEK
QT: 3711 SEK
Livestock: 4290 SEK
Food: 2077 SEK
Consumables: 5386 SEK
Total: 34405 SEK or 3626 USD
 
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I have started down the road to my first aquarium of any kind.
Starting out with a saltwater tank is jumping into the deep end but this is what my heart beets for ever since first snorkling a reef at the age of 11.

currently i am in the planning/acquiring stage. The tank will be located in my home office which has a space of just over 90 cm (3ft) next to my desk.

I started with a list of things i think i should have. When adding it all up it became apparent that this is an expensive hobby so i decided to try and cut corners where it made sense to me.

As such i have been scouring local adverts for 2nd hand gear but the choice of tank and lighting is still one that I have not made yet. I am torn between finding some second hand tank for a fraction of the price or shell out for a new one. I have looked at the red sea 300xl and waterbox 100 and i like the dimensions of these as they are wider than they are tall. For a second hand i would probably end up with a rs250 or similar.
As i am located in Sweden we do not seem to have many of the brands such as IM that are otherwise frequently mentioned here.

i have no experience with plumbling so drilling my own seems a bit on the hard side of things. Although rimless tanks scare me with he increased risk of seam failure. How much of an issue is it really?

i have read that the waterbox has imperial measurements in its piping, how much of a hazzle is that for my fellow european and swedish friends?

I would be grateful for any advice!
1. Congrats.
2. It is not a huge 'jump' to do a saltwater tank. Just don't get caught in the 'hype' - that you need 'plumbing' beyond plastic tubing, etc.
3. I like RedSea. I have 2 of them - and most of the plumbing is already done.

Suggestion: Don't worry about the equipment other people have - most of it is probably for their specific needs. you do not need an ATO, for example. You do not need multiple reactors, IMHO, you do not need a lot of stuff. If you want - stick to fish for now - and add coral, etc later
 
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Stuff already aquired:
Dry rock 25kg (50 pounds) - 10$
5 stage RODI unit 1500l/d (400g/d) - 100$.
200/200/200/150 watt unopened heaters - 20$
100/100/200 watt used heaters (spares) - 7.5$
1.8kg Tropic marin Bio Calcium - 2$
1.8kg Tropic marin Bio Magnesium - 2$
Caribsea purple up - 0$
Tropic marin elimi aiptas - 0$
2x Resun wave maker 2000-15000 l/h (china brand) unopened - 20$
2x Aquabee 3000 L/h return pumps - 20$
6kg activated carbon - 5$
5 sticks of epoxy - 5$
Magfloat algae scraper, Eheim gravel vac, Sera aqua test box, 6kg salt - 25$

Total so far: 216.5$

The RODI is seriously overkill for my planned tank size but it is a 5 stage unit which seems difficult to get a hold of over here for less than 300-500$ new.
The wave makers are a complete crap-shoot, but for 10$ a pop if they don't work out I can use them for mixing salt.
I got two return pumps because its good to have a spare and I figure I can use it with a long hose to simplify water changes by pumping directly to my sink in another room.


Must have (not yet aquired):
Tank + stand
Light
Sand
More rock, maybe another 20-30kg to make acquascaping easier.
Salinity test (preferably the Hannah digital tester)
Spare filter socks
Water resistant mat to protect the floors
Lid or netting
Scraper for the sides where magnetic scraper does not work
Salt and fresh water buckets
Superglue


Should have (not yet aquired):
QT tank
QT HOB filter
QT lid
QT scraper
Skimmer
Heater controller
Medicine (Prazipro, copper)
Coral dip
Starter bacteria


Would like to have (not yet aquired):
Invert/Coral QT tank
Invert/Coral QT filter
Invert/Coral QT lid (I am assuming snails can crawl out)
Invert/coral QT light
Easier to use tests
ULR Phosphor tester
Filter roller

Let me know if there is something I have missed or that you think should be in a different category.
 
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Managed to get a second hand 60l (16gallon) tank in good condition to serve as a QT tank.
tank, gravel vac, net, 50w heater and a simple filter for 25$. We don’t seem to get the kind if dollar per gallon sales you get in the US so this size tank would be at least 80-90$ new without any of the equipment.

getting it the 7km in the snow without a car was a bit of a challenge
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I have never strapped an aquarium to a bicycle before. That's pretty hardcore.

If you buy a package deal like waterbox or redsea that includes sump and plumbing then a lot of the work of figuring out how to connect everything together is already done for you. You will probably pay a lot more for this.

But if you buy just a tank and drill it yourself, or buy a used tank that is already drilled but without any of the attached plumbing. Then you have to figure out how to make the plumbing work yourself. If this sounds fun and exciting to learn about then this is the way you should go. If it sounds scary and onerous, then you should skip this option, bite the bullet, and go with a new tank that includes all the plumbing already done for you.
 
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Some progress on the aquascape/habitat. These is all from dirt cheap second hand rock. This only one side, the other I will make from broken up pieces of pukani-like rock.

The intention is to have gsp on the protruding shelves to immitate leaves on a tree

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More work on the aquascape. This is mostly with second hand what seems like pukani rock. Trying to make somethig resembling the HNSAs that BRStv have been making and for a first timer it seems not too bad.
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Oscar,
you are off to a great start and will be following along...

your scape is intriguing - but would think little bit about hiding places depending on your fish mix

and my family is from Dalarna
 
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Barely a week in and I’ve had my first hermit crabicide. There were 3 of them and now I can only find 2 plus there is very much something that looks like a carcass. I feed every day but maybe not enough. There is not a lot of algae for them to graze on yet
 
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Turns out it was just a molt. Boy those things look more meaty than i expected.

Coral and invert QT seems to be doing quite well but I don’t really know about my parameters. I have an old test kit and thr nitrate and phosphate test swing wildly between 0 and 25 for nitrate and 0 and 4ppm for phosphate!! I will be getting my Hanna testers today to get some more reliable results.
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Oh and last weekend I added some new inhabitants.
I managed to completely crush this frogspawns skeleton in several places but could glue it back together and it seems no worse for wear.
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This clavularia i almost melted with a FW dip, not making that mistake again. There were dead polyps floating around the tank. But they seem very hard and its back in business
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Got the Hanna checkers.
Real results were 0.19 phos and 21.9 nitrate. The phosphate is definitely high and im thinking of adding a little bit of gfo to my carbon bag.
will also get some macro algae and put in a box at the side of the tank to help with export.
 

Welcoming coral to your home!!! How do you add coral to your tank?

  • Move the coral from the bag and place it directly into the display tank.

    Votes: 24 10.5%
  • Dip process before placing the coral into the display tank.

    Votes: 135 59.2%
  • Acclimate before placing the coral into the display tank.

    Votes: 45 19.7%
  • Move the coral from the bag and place it directly into the quarantine tank.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Dip process before placing the coral into the quarantine tank.

    Votes: 14 6.1%
  • Acclimate before placing the coral into the quarantine tank.

    Votes: 5 2.2%
  • Other.

    Votes: 5 2.2%
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