Fish kee dying

[AnotherReefHobbyist]

quick nugget of advice: Lets figure out what is going on before buying any more fish, no need to take more lives.


I don't think it is water, as you have several coral, an anemone, and some sort of red starfish, that all seem to be doing well. The heater could have caused some deaths, but not with clowns. And I really doubt it was the pump, I have extremly low flow in my tanks and it has never once caused a problem.

Agree with sharkbait, we need to know how the fish died, what they looked like upon death, etc.

 

[Joseqb77]

A pump wouldn’t change anything unless it was an O2 issue. Knowing what the fish looked/acted like before they died and how they were acclimated would help a lot in diagnosing death.

The clownfish was very active all day yesterday, eating swimming all around tank but when i woke up he was deadthe previous 2 clownfish that died last week was breathing very hard gasping for air but stayed at the bottom of tank, one I watched die he was swimming with the current and was seem to be fighting to stay alive, the acclamation part in bag for 20 min for temp, then I added water to bag little by little for about 20 min

 

[Joseqb77]

quick nugget of advice: Lets figure out what is going on before buying any more fish, no need to take more lives.


I don't think it is water, as you have several coral, an anemone, and some sort of red starfish, that all seem to be doing well. The heater could have caused some deaths, but not with clowns. And I really doubt it was the pump, I have extremly low flow in my tanks and it has never once caused a problem.

Agree with sharkbait, we need to know how the fish died, what they looked like upon death, etc.

Yesterday I bought a yellow tang, blenny, yellow goby, Christmas Wrasse, they seem ok I acclimated them in a bucket, should I use the solution in the tank

 

[Sharkbait19]

Any white spots/hazy cloudy appearance?
How thin?
How big is the tank?

 

[Joseqb77]

White spots no, Marron clown died couple weeks ago hazy eyes, Purple tang body looked hazy, the cliwn that died yesterday looked fine last night. The Royal Grammat didn't look to good when I was bringing him home from store, I agree no more fish but I would love to save the fish I got yesterday

 

[Joseqb77]

Any white spots/hazy cloudy appearance?
How thin?
How big is the tank?

60 Gallon cube

 

[Joseqb77]

60 Gallon cube

Mandarin Fish dead just found him bought him same day as clown n other fish, angelfish still alive

 

[Joseqb77]

60 Gallon cube

60 Gallon cube

Can u see anything

 

[melonheadorion]

what is your salinity at? i doubt its the cause, but worth checking. i would also check PH too, but unless it completely bottomed out, i dont think it would cause much problem, but also worth a check. while youre at it, check ammonia, just for poo and laughter.
im wondering if maybe there is stray voltage. you could test for that if you have a voltmeter. to me, seems like a hell of alot of fish added all at once. i generally get no more than 2 added to my tank, wait a week, and then add more, but thats just me. i like to make sure my bio load catches up

 

[Bucs20fan]

I believe what is occurring here is something we cannot see with the naked eye, if its not a parameter thats out of whack, then quite possible could be stray voltage.

+1 to not adding more than 2 fish at a time, you would be very surprised how fast ammonia can build up to a toxic level in a tank of that size. By the time your bacteria use it up it could have been toxic to the fish already at that point, add that onto an already stressed fish by being added to a new environment and bam. I have learned this lesson more than once and the hard way.

My best guess is new tank, and needs to mature based upon what your rockwork looks like.

 

[melonheadorion]

also, as just a hunch, do you get all of your stuff from the same place? and is that place, petco? looks like the standard selection of what people find in petco, for sure.
if that is the case, it very well could be disease. depending on the store of course.
just yesterday, you added 4 fish, and to a tank that probably already had a couple in it before that. i know youre going to hold off on buying more, and thats great. but for the future, dont buy out the store on one trip. give the system a chance to build up to it
something is up, obviously. to me, looks like your corals are holding on, but to me, thats all theyre doing is holding on. perhaps its the lighting that made them look like this, assuming you turned on the lights to take a picture, but their condition doesnt look as good as i would imagine. your anemone is closed, and was closed under blue light also. im no expert on corals, so take it for what its worth,, other than your zoas and your GSP, everything else doesnt look like its on the thrving end of the spectrum

 

[DeniseAndy]

Hello and welcome. I am sorry for your losses, but first you do need to slow down. You have a newer system there from the looks of the rock.

I believe you have an issue with disease as I see no signs of QT being done. Where are the fish from and what do the stores do in their tanks? Many run low levels of copper and then when removed, disease strikes fast.

You also have limited ares for fish to hide and this will add stress to the fish. 60g is not large enough for the tangs you have introduced and this will also cause stress on the fish.

As the corals are doing okay, the water chemistry should be within range. Now, 70*F will not kill fish. Hot water kills a lot faster than cold. Flow will not impact the fish well being when introduced to tank.

Take a breath and let us know more about the fish. Where you got them, how you acclimated them, how they looked and look, behaviors, qt protocol if any. I saw a bit about the fish breathing hard and on bottom. Parasite is my first guess. Any lesions or redness? Any spots?

 

[Joseqb77]

Should I start using now

 

[vetteguy53081]

So I thought I fixed problem by getting a bigger pump. I bought 1 clownfish 1 royal grammat and 2 other fish, clownfish and royal grammat died within 4 days other 2 are still alive, I bought a yellow tang also b4 the clown died I want to save this fish will this stuff work and not kill my corals, I'm sure I have some kind of disease in my tank don't know what I appreciate ur help

This MEDIC is nothing more than Peroxide salts but in conjunction with ruby Rally pro may help. Quarantine and Treatment is best recourse

 

[Joseqb77]

Hello and welcome. I am sorry for your losses, but first you do need to slow down. You have a newer system there from the looks of the rock.

I believe you have an issue with disease as I see no signs of QT being done. Where are the fish from and what do the stores do in their tanks? Many run low levels of copper and then when removed, disease strikes fast.

You also have limited ares for fish to hide and this will add stress to the fish. 60g is not large enough for the tangs you have introduced and this will also cause stress on the fish.

As the corals are doing okay, the water chemistry should be within range. Now, 70*F will not kill fish. Hot water kills a lot faster than cold. Flow will not impact the fish well being when introduced to tank.

Take a breath and let us know more about the fish. Where you got them, how you acclimated them, how they looked and look, behaviors, qt protocol if any. I saw a bit about the fish breathing hard and on bottom. Parasite is my first guess. Any lesions or redness? Any spots?

C Mac in Charlotte NC, 20 min in bag for temp 20 minutes adding water to bag, I was told I only need to qt certain fish and clownfish royal grammat wasn't one if them I added 8 fish in 4 days was wondering if that could be the problem, also i have a fire goby and starfish who has been there since day 1 and they have lived and everyone else died, could there still be a disease in water

 

[Sharkbait19]

C Mac in Charlotte NC, 20 min in bag for temp 20 minutes adding water to bag, I was told I only need to qt certain fish and clownfish royal grammat wasn't one if them I added 8 fish in 4 days was wondering if that could be the problem, also i have a fire goby and starfish who has been there since day 1 and they have lived and everyone else died, could there still be a disease in water

If your lfs told you that only some fish need to be qt’ed then they are misleading you. Unless those fish are being held in sterile environments and were quarantined previously, they are as likely to carry disease as the rest.

 

[Joseqb77]

If your lfs told you that only some fish need to be qt’ed then they are misleading you. Unless those fish are being held in sterile environments and were quarantined previously, they are as likely to carry disease as the rest.

Do u think I need to start treating tank now, I put 8 fish in tank in a 4 day span could that hurt the tank

 

[Joseqb77]

If your lfs told you that only some fish need to be qt’ed then they are misleading you. Unless those fish are being held in sterile environments and were quarantined previously, they are as likely to carry disease as the rest.

I don't want the yellow tang to die, what should I do

 

[Sharkbait19]

We would need to know what the disease is before recommending a treatment. How did the fish look before dying and were there any common behaviors/symptoms?

 

[Joseqb77]

Looked healthy swimming around eating then dead next morning, one set of clownfish was breathing hard then died later on in day, Marron clowfish, eyes were cloudy, all other fish normal looking , Purple tang color was fading