Furniture grade PVC

[skulls_and_sparrows]

I tried searching and didnt come up with anything concrete in regards to colored PVC being reef safe.

I know many have run wit with no ill effect...but it being not being NSF rated, does make me nervous about it's longevity. I saw some information that it not being rated having to do with pressure ratings vs. leeching chemicals.

Does anyone have any insight...?

 

[dbl]

I did a little research on this a couple of years ago. These folks sell colored PVC for aquaria. Might be worth calling.

http://www.pimpedoutaquariums.com/pvc.aspx

 

[skulls_and_sparrows]

I did a little research on this a couple of years ago. These folks sell colored PVC for aquaria. Might be worth calling.

http://www.pimpedoutaquariums.com/pvc.aspx

BRS sells, as do some other retailers...which gives me some confidence...but still a bit weary
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[Brad Miller]

I am a pipe fitter by trade and have been in the PHVAC&R trade for about 35 years now...
This topic is one that has held my interest for many years.
I have followed this topic throughout my years in the trade.
PVC is Poly Viynl Chloride piping no matter who sells it...
PVC will leach into anything that comes in contact with it.
UV and sunlight will destroy it.
Adding color to the pipe is just one more thing to leech out.
PVC pipe is not ok to use with RODI water, while CPVC pipe can.
PVC pipe made prior to 1977 or so, REALLY LEACHED chemicals into our water.
PVC pipe will get brittle over time and will break like glass, why? Most people say it's because the chemical make up of the pipe leached out enough for this to happen.

We use it for all kinds of things today but is it as safe as everyone thinks....?
I personally don't think it is and could explain a lot of the health issues we and our pets experience these days.

You do the research if your interested and decide for yourself....


Leaching studies conducted over the past 30 or so years that I'm aware of, have found that PVC, CPVC, HDPE, PE, PEX (latest and greatest is the worst culprit) and PP pipes do leach potentially toxic chemicals such as chloroform, tetrahydrofuran, methyl ethyl ketone, acetate and hundreds more, into drinking water.
Phthalates (chemicals used in manufacturing plastic pipe to make the vinyl softer) are also harmful.

This topic is so exhausting due to the number of chemicals that leach and under various conditions, that all I can say is to search out any scientific document and just look at its findings, they all same this is true.

 

[theMeat]

@Brad Miller

Thanx for sharing your expertise

 

[skulls_and_sparrows]

I am a pipe fitter by trade and have been in the PHVAC&R trade for about 35 years now...
This topic is one that has held my interest for many years.
I have followed this topic throughout my years in the trade.
PVC is Poly Viynl Chloride piping no matter who sells it...
PVC will leach into anything that comes in contact with it.
UV and sunlight will destroy it.
Adding color to the pipe is just one more thing to leech out.
PVC pipe is not ok to use with RODI water, while CPVC pipe can.
PVC pipe made prior to 1977 or so, REALLY LEACHED chemicals into our water.
PVC pipe will get brittle over time and will break like glass, why? Most people say it's because the chemical make up of the pipe leached out enough for this to happen.

We use it for all kinds of things today but is it as safe as everyone thinks....?
I personally don't think it is and could explain a lot of the health issues we and our pets experience these days.

You do the research if your interested and decide for yourself....


Leaching studies conducted over the past 30 or so years that I'm aware of, have found that PVC, CPVC, HDPE, PE, PEX (latest and greatest is the worst culprit) and PP pipes do leach potentially toxic chemicals such as chloroform, tetrahydrofuran, methyl ethyl ketone, acetate and hundreds more, into drinking water.
Phthalates (chemicals used in manufacturing plastic pipe to make the vinyl softer) are also harmful.

This topic is so exhausting due to the number of chemicals that leach and under various conditions, that all I can say is to search out any scientific document and just look at its findings, they all same this is true.

Great info. So is there any option that is safe or are you saying...they are all bad and that them being colored will make no worse difference than standard PVC?

 

[Brad Miller]

PVC is your best material to use as we see it today, illeffects will never be truly known or understood.
If you want colored pvc, go for it, I don't think it's going to kill anything in your tank in any of our lifetimes, that we can point a finger at and say...HEY...that pvc pipe killed my fish :)

 

[skulls_and_sparrows]

PVC is your best material to use as we see it today, illeffects will never be truly known or understood.
If you want colored pvc, go for it, I don't think it's going to kill anything in your tank in any of our lifetimes, that we can point a finger at and say...HEY...that pvc pipe killed my fish :)

Thank you, sir!

 

[Brad Miller]

My pleasure

 

[skulls_and_sparrows]

My pleasure

One last question...is there a special glue for the colored PVC and do i need primer? I was hoping to do clear glue, to keep the build as clean as posdible

 

[theMeat]

There’s clear primer readily available at homecheapo, whatever

 

[Brad Miller]

Good question, be sure and use primer, or the joint will eventually come apart. Primer actually softens the pipe and the glue then fuses the molecules together.
Use the same primer and glue as regular white schedule 40 pvc pipe...mostly considered a medium bond and labeled as general purpose.

 

[dcraigj]

Here is a link to a video BRS made.

 

[WetPets]

Aquarium Specialty is where I get it from. They also have great prices on union ball valves if you plan on using them.

 

[LadyTang2]

PVC pipe is not ok to use with RODI water, while CPVC pipe can.

So we should not use PVC with RODI water and CPVC is better for that? I have not heard that before but I am somewhat new.

For general tank plumbing, I read that CPVC was more resistant to chemicals so I figured it would leach less. So you think I should avoid CPVC and PEX and use regular PVC for that?

Ever heard anything about PTFE piping and leaching?

 

[LadyTang2]

Bump - anybody believe cpvc is bettor or worse than regular PVC, from I have read it should be better.