Glass Cages / Planet Aquarium leaks/problems...?

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We all hear the problems with Red Seas aquariums (jury is still out on the newer G3 models)...

Any most people say go custom instead.

But how is the Class Cages / Planet Aquarium record...?

Are they leak/problem free for most?
 
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I’ve had a Glass Cafes tank for 4 years with zero issues. If I could go back in time, I’d get the edge guards for the silicone seams but other than that, it’s been great! 100% would buy a Glass Cages Tank again.
 
We all hear the problems with Red Seas aquariums (jury is still out on the newer G3 models)...

Any most people say go custom instead.

But how is the Class Cages / Planet Aquarium record...?

Are the leak/problem free for most?

Use your favorite search engine and you will get the results you are looking for. Ignoring the brand the onus is always on the hobbyist to perform the installation correctly. There is always the human factor...
 
I think no manufacture is completely immune to it and that includes Glass Cages but from everything I've read from Joe himself is they don't cut any corners and use methods/materials that give the best possible chance against any failures/imperfections.
 
I have one tank from Planet Aquarium with no issues, and frag tank is from Glass Cage. Both Companies are great. When I ordered my tank from Planet Aquarium was through a store, but I liked more the process to order my frag tank from Glass Cage, because you can customize it and the communication was great too.
 
This is like comparing a Hyundai to a Rolls-Royce. Mass manufacturing vs custom hand built. The two are in different camps and should have a different range of expectations imo. At the end of the day as far as seals leaking it depends on many factors. From installation issues to tank inhabitants and accidents a lot can go wrong and will.

If leaks scare you or burst seams haunt your dreams acrylic may be your answer. Properly built cell cast acrylic tanks have molecular bonded seams and become essentially one piece. No adhesive to let loose. The down side is they scratch easier than low iron glass. Upside is they can be buffed to new/like new even while full.
 
If leaks scare you or burst seams haunt your dreams acrylic may be your answer. Properly built cell cast acrylic tanks have molecular bonded seams and become essentially one piece. No adhesive to let loose. The down side is they scratch easier than low iron glass. Upside is they can be buffed to new/like new even while full.

Another advantage to acrylic is that it is clearer than even low iron glass. AFAIK it's the most transparent material you can get a tank made out of.

 
Another advantage to acrylic is that it is clearer than even low iron glass. AFAIK it's the most transparent material you can get a tank made out of.



I think my next tank when the kids are older will be acrylic... at this point in time they'll probably carve their drawings into it.
 
If leaks scare you or burst seams haunt your dreams acrylic may be your answer. Properly built cell cast acrylic tanks have molecular bonded seams and become essentially one piece. No adhesive to let loose. The down side is they scratch easier than low iron glass. Upside is they can be buffed to new/like new even while full.

Another advantage to acrylic is that it is clearer than even low iron glass. AFAIK it's the most transparent material you can get a tank made out of.

True, it is more clear than low iron glass. Also makes a better thermal barrier helping to stabilize tank temps.
 
Another advantage to acrylic is that it is clearer than even low iron glass. AFAIK it's the most transparent material you can get a tank made out of.



I think my next tank when the kids are older will be acrylic... at this point in time they'll probably carve their drawings into it.
I have 3 ranging from 1-13. I made it clear certain things are off limits for them to mess with and everything works fine. Worse comes to worse...
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I always preferred acylic myself and was shocked to come back to the hobby to see a glass craze. Very few tank builders like doing custom woodwork these days either, just industrial stands and a glass tank.
 
This is like comparing a Hyundai to a Rolls-Royce. Mass manufacturing vs custom hand built. The two are in different camps and should have a different range of expectations imo. At the end of the day as far as seals leaking it depends on many factors. From installation issues to tank inhabitants and accidents a lot can go wrong and will.

If leaks scare you or burst seams haunt your dreams acrylic may be your answer. Properly built cell cast acrylic tanks have molecular bonded seams and become essentially one piece. No adhesive to let loose. The down side is they scratch easier than low iron glass. Upside is they can be buffed to new/like new even while full.
Heard that acrylic scratched easy...

But as you say it can be buffed out - but didn't know you could do it with the tank still full - not sure how you would do that (buffer, buffing compound, etc.)

Also heard that for larger tanks (with thicker acrylic) - it can look somewhat distorted and not as clear as the low iron glass, etc.

And is also much more expensive, etc.

And never really heard anyone talking about any reputable acrylic manufactures.
 
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This is like comparing a Hyundai to a Rolls-Royce. Mass manufacturing vs custom hand built. The two are in different camps and should have a different range of expectations imo. At the end of the day as far as seals leaking it depends on many factors. From installation issues to tank inhabitants and accidents a lot can go wrong and will.

If leaks scare you or burst seams haunt your dreams acrylic may be your answer. Properly built cell cast acrylic tanks have molecular bonded seams and become essentially one piece. No adhesive to let loose. The down side is they scratch easier than low iron glass. Upside is they can be buffed to new/like new even while full.
Heard that acrylic scratched easy...

But as you say it can be buffed out - but didn't know you could do it with the tank still full - not sure how you would do that (buffer, buffing compound, etc.)

Also heard that for larger tanks (with thicker acrylic) - it can look somewhat distorted and not as clear as the low iron glass, etc.

And is also much more expensive, etc.

And never really heard anyone talking about any reputable acrylic manufactures.
I am getting my new 300 gallon built by Tsunami. Actually larger panels and tanks made for public aquariums are almost always acrylic. The quality of acrylic used matters a lot and only one manufacturer that I know of makes Acrycast. It gets used for aerospace, marine, food, medical, and high end aquarium builds. It is clearer than low iron glass. Only go with cell cast acrylic. In my experience as someone who just shopped around acrylic was more than float glass but less than low iron glass price wise at the moment. Could be due to import and weight for shipping on the glass since much of it is purchased out of the US.

As far as repair

https://www.bulkreefsupply.com/basic-acrylic-scratch-removal-kit-lifegard.html
Interior repair would be similar to exterior up to 1200 grit or so without the polish at the interior in the end.
 
Heard that acrylic scratched easy...

But as you say it can be buffed out - but didn't know you could do it with the tank still full - not sure how you would do that (buffer, buffing compound, etc.)

Also heard that for larger tanks (with thicker acrylic) - it can look somewhat distorted and not as clear as the low iron glass, etc.

And is also much more expensive, etc.

And never really heard anyone talking about any reputable acrylic manufactures.

To answer each of the questions in turn:

Yes, it can be buffed out while full. You can find videos of people doing exactly that on YouTube. It's basically just moving up through a standard progression of sandpapers, the difference being that the grit becomes incredibly fine as you progress up. Buffing compound is only used on the dry side of the tank; it basically acts like a lubricant and a fine abrasive at once, allowing you to polish back up quicker than would otherwise be necessary. On the wet side, the water itself acts as the lubricant, so you just have to progress up through the grits more methodically.

Incredibly thick acrylic does get distorted. You have to get up to the inches-thick realm for this to really impact you. You will also see some distortion if you try to look through an acrylic pane at an angle. But when viewed head-on (or in a reasonable facsimile thereof) you can't really notice any distortion.

Expensive? Depends on the size. In smaller tanks, yes, it's definitely more expensive. My 90g tank cost me about $1,600. A similar glass one, on its own, probably would have been around $800-$900. Acrylic scales up better, though - because it's stronger than glass, you don't have to increase thickness as quickly, so there does come a point where acrylic tanks are comparable to glass tanks.

As for manufacturers - the market for home-grade acrylic tanks is much smaller than it is for glass, so there are fewer companies operating there. Most acrylic tanks end up being custom in some respect, so it's always more comparable to a custom manufacturer rather than a mass-market tank like Red Sea or Waterbox. If you wanted to look into acrylic tanks, start off with Glass Cages, Midwest Customs and Tsunami. My own tank is a Tsunami and they were great to work with. Glass Cages is very responsive and while acrylic isn't their focus, they do still produce a nice tank. As for Midwest - if you have time to plan out a build and don't mind waiting, he was the most affordable of the companies I had quote me. You generally won't find an acrylic tank pre-built and ready to go, at least not a new one.
 
I’ve had my aquarium from glass cages filled since about summer 2015 still looks great with no issues. The next tank I will definitely order from them again.
 

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