Help! Don’t know what’s wrong with flame angel!

[DalPal25]

I got this Flame Angel on Friday. It’s my second flame in a year and the first one died within a week and this one is not looking so good. All other tank mates are doing fine and not picking at him at all. Any suggestions?

 

[Barrett]

Pictures might help to figure this out.

 

[DalPal25]

Jeez. I can’t believe I forgot to post the pictures.

 

[Crabs McJones]

I got this Flame Angel on Friday. It’s my second flame in a year and the first one died within a week and this one is not looking so good. All other tank mates are doing fine and not picking at him at all. Any suggestions?

Any pictures? Are you running quarantine before adding them to the tank?

 

[DalPal25]

Any pictures? Are you running quarantine before adding them to the tank?

I just posted the pictures, can you all see it?

 

[DalPal25]

Any pictures? Are you running quarantine before adding them to the tank?

I don’t have a quarantine tank

 

[Crabs McJones]

Jeez. I can’t believe I forgot to post the pictures.

I just posted the pictures, can you all see it?

Yup, they showed up now. What was your acclimation procedure? Did you just temperature match or did you do a drip acclimation?

 

[DalPal25]

Yup, they showed up now. What was your acclimation procedure? Did you just temperature match or did you do a drip acclimation?

I did a temperature match.

 

[EmdeReef]

Is the fish inverted on its back or just a rotated pic? Does it struggle to stay afloat? Could be a swim bladder issue

 

[DalPal25]

Is the fish inverted on its back or just a rotated pic? Does it struggle to stay afloat? Could be a swim bladder issue

Yes the fish is upside down, the picture is not rotated. As far as swimming, it isn’t doing a lot of it. It’s breathing very heavily.

 

[srm077]

Water parameters?

 

[Barrett]

Was the water in the bag and the water in your tank the same salinity

 

[DalPal25]

Water parameters?

I checked ammonia, ph, nitrites and nitrates. All fine

 

[EmdeReef]

That seems like a swim bladder issue to me, based on what you describe the fish is basically floating inverted. Spinal injury would cause a similar pattern of upside down swimming but the fish would not be inverted. Unfortunately, if it is a swim bladder issue there's not much that we can do. Some success deflating the bladder with a needle. I've also read some success stories where people fed boiled/canned green peas, but that would presume a fish that's already eating.

 

[erky]

i have a hippo tang that im 99% sure has swim bladder disease that I do not know what to do with. same scenario with it laying on its side in my QT tank.

 

[EmdeReef]

i have a hippo tang that im 99% sure has swim bladder disease that I do not know what to do with. same scenario with it laying on its side in my QT tank.

Laying on the side is common for stressed hippo tangs but could mean a few different things other than swim bladder. Any pics, other symptoms? Have you been treating the tank with anything?

 

[erky]

Laying on the side is common for stressed hippo tangs but could mean a few different things other than swim bladder. Any pics, other symptoms? Have you been treating the tank with anything?

do not want to get off track as this isnt my thread, but yeah been a month since i have noticed its issue, treated with Copper, then Eythromycan, slight improvements but nothing to id exactly what is wrong with the fish, that was the last issue i could think the fish could have. At what point do you stop dosing medicines and just let the fish live or dye, not to sound mean, but how i feel. I am going to try peas, but that will be the last "fix" i have left.

 

[DalPal25]

That seems like a swim bladder issue to me, based on what you describe the fish is basically floating inverted. Spinal injury would cause a similar pattern of upside down swimming but the fish would not be inverted. Unfortunately, if it is a swim bladder issue there's not much that we can do. Some success deflating the bladder with a needle. I've also read some success stories where people fed boiled/canned green peas, but that would presume a fish that's already eating.

Thank you so much

 

[Deinonych]

Was the water in the bag and the water in your tank the same salinity

+1

Many LFS keep salinity lower than optimal (typically ~SG 1.017) to save costs on salt. If this was the case and you only acclimated for temperature, the fish could be in osmotic shock.

 

[DalPal25]

+1

Many LFS keep salinity lower than optimal (typically ~SG 1.017) to save costs on salt. If this was the case and you only acclimated for temperature, the fish could be in osmotic shock.

Okay so let’s say it wasn’t the same because I’m honestly not sure. What could I do about this? If anything?