how to classify a chalice....

[Troylee]

chalice dummy here....lol i just got into collecting not to long ago and was wandering how you guys classify them....
i look at the Oregon mummy eye and the og mummy eye etc and can't tell the difference...
pretty much what makes a chalice a mummy eye??? i know a green rim means watermelon.... what's the difference in the fleshy ones that puff up and the others with tight skin against skeleton etc....
it seems there is so many now and so many that look the same but have different classifications and or names... could some one explain characteristics of them and what to look for to id one????

 

[inactive]

People will say green rim/watermelon but I beg to differ.. I believe a watermelon chalice to be pink/red base, green rim by default.

Mummy eyes I believe refer to the bright red/orange eyes... maybe a little in the growth of the larger eyes?

I mean, it's all designed tags really.. but if you think of how they came about originally, makes more sense.

To try to keep up with it now is almost pointless.. everything is watermelon, everything with 2 colors is considered rainbow now... I mean, well.. you know what I mean..

 

[Troylee]

Hmmmmm... I thought there was a actually way to tell a mummy eye... I have a blue chalice with bright pink eyes I was told it was a mummy eye but the actual size shape etc looks different than my og mummy eye...
I guess I prolly did ask a impossible question. Lol

 

[akabryanhall]

I think Kraylen is right on with his answer, the whole reason its concidered a "watermelon" is because of the colors that are similar to a ahem..watermelon.

 

[inactive]

I think Kraylen is right on with his answer, the whole reason its concidered a "watermelon" is because of the colors that are similar to a ahem..watermelon.

Ahh thank you... so much as been lost in translation/transaction.

 

[Speg]

Watermelon (chalice), to me, is something that has the green rim; not necessarily something that has pink on its base or seeds in the middle :)

 

[inactive]

I have plenty of green rimmed chalice... def would not consider most of them "watermelons" at all.

 

[Triggerman77]

From what i have seen Speg thats how it looks to me too ! although i can see the red pink looking like actual WM !! But i think thats far gone with tons of WM chalices out there that have zero pink and red :)

 

[Maximus]

People will say green rim/watermelon but I beg to differ.. I believe a watermelon chalice to be pink/red base, green rim by default.

Mummy eyes I believe refer to the bright red/orange eyes... maybe a little in the growth of the larger eyes?

I mean, it's all designed tags really.. but if you think of how they came about originally, makes more sense.

To try to keep up with it now is almost pointless.. everything is watermelon, everything with 2 colors is considered rainbow now... I mean, well.. you know what I mean..

****, I agree. I cannot stand it when someone says it's a watermelon chalice when the thing is brown and green. What colors are in a watermelon? I say either red/pink and green rim. Please do not call a brown chalice with a green rim a watermelon!!

 

[Maximus]

FWIW, the Mummy Eye name came about from Jeremy at Exotic frags. He has a funny story about it.

 

[Nicks387]

There are I believe 5 types of corals that make up what we reefers refer to as chalices Lee,
I may be wrong about the exact number but from what I know they are
Echinophyllia, Mycedium, Oxypora, Pectinia, and Physophyllia, and Lamellosa.

as far as the designer names Kraylen hit that on the head. I agree that watermelons should be red/pink with a green rim but the common use of the name is anything with a green rim now is a watermelon. i do not agree with it but that is what it has become.
The mummy eyes were originally a shade of green with orange or red eyes but now anything thats a solid body with a red or orange eye is called a mummy eye. The high end mummy eyes that look alike have various degrees of brightness in the body's green and the color of the eyes so in pics they look the same but side by side can be told apart. I have a light blue one with red eyes that was sold to me as the Captain America mummy eye, perhaps thats the one you have too?

 

[inactive]

*high fives entire thread except Speg* :D

 

[Triggerman77]

LOL this should get a sticky !!! As this is a often asked Q!!!

 

[Troylee]

There are I believe 5 types of corals that make up what we reefers refer to as chalices Lee,
I may be wrong about the exact number but from what I know they are
Echinophyllia, Mycedium, Oxypora, Pectinia, and Physophyllia, and Lamellosa.

as far as the designer names Kraylen hit that on the head. I agree that watermelons should be red/pink with a green rim but the common use of the name is anything with a green rim now is a watermelon. i do not agree with it but that is what it has become.
The mummy eyes were originally a shade of green with orange or red eyes but now anything thats a solid body with a red or orange eye is called a mummy eye. The high end mummy eyes that look alike have various degrees of brightness in the body's green and the color of the eyes so in pics they look the same but side by side can be told apart. I have a light blue one with red eyes that was sold to me as the Captain America mummy eye, perhaps thats the one you have too?

mine just came in as a blue mummy eye.."no fancy name" very, very bright aqua blue and brightest pink eyes i have ever saw.... the eyes on it put my pink ******* "pink" to shame.....
i got a dark blue with yellow eyes oxypora that's pretty sweet as well....
so which one is the fleshy or puffy if you will????

 

[Troylee]

LOL this should get a sticky !!! As this is a often asked Q!!!

i could do that if the rest of the team agrees.... i couldn't find this info anywhere so i asked lol...;)

 

[Triggerman77]

Qoute i could do that if the rest of the team agrees.... i couldn't find this info anywhere so i asked lol.)

Yea it make sense ta me !

Bc honestly all should be ale to see this !! :)

Quote Maximus ****, I agree. I cannot stand it when someone says it's a watermelon chalice when the thing is brown and green. What colors are in a watermelon? I say either red/pink and green rim. Please do not call a brown chalice with a green rim a watermelon!!

 

[Nicks387]

In my experience,
Oxypora usually have a puffy rim or growth edge.
Lamelosa is the one that grows like a monti cap (Hollywood stunner)
Mycedium usually have the raised eyes that almost look like noses. (Used to be called elephant nose)
Not sure which the rest fall into but I like the smoother growing ones like Bubblegum monster, Miami Huricane, Original mummy eye etc. Telling apart the different types this way is not easy though.

 

[Troylee]

well i have a grape watermelon that has everything but the red...." hence the grape" its purple with white stripes and a green rim... would grape watermelon be the correct diagnosis????and would the second one be classified as the same? without the stripes??

 

[Troylee]

Also what would the last 2 pics p
I posted be as in classification??? There both both puffy "fleshy" not tight like the oxy or enchophllia "spelling"

 

[inactive]

I can call anything (color) watermelon that has a green rim and whatever said color.. still not a WM, a WM chalice looks like a frickin' watermelon.. everything else is hustlin.