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[Snprhed]

TL, I went looking for it, but couldnt find it. It was literally like each number of fish and a percentage next to it on the liklihood of getting a pair. I think 8 is the 97 percent; number. Pretty sure I found it here:

Marine Ornamental Fish & Invert Breeders Association • Index page

 

[cparka23]

Was it this post? If so, I don't think it's really applicable to clownfish breeding. Matt's post qualifies it as being limited to species whose sexes are determined by genotype, and those probabilities are simply derived from there being an equal number of males and females.

Clownfish are sequential hermaphrodites, so the chance of having a male and a female among a group of fish depends more on the social hierarchies from which the fish were collected. To put it another way, we're not talking about equal numbers of males and females when it comes to clownfish.

 

[nata]

I tried 4 clowns and it did not work ..had to go down to 2..i hope you are sucessful..try the picture!!!

 

[kingfisherfleshy]

You could also section them off or isolate them in an area with the anemone.

This works...my brother works for one of the biggest SW importers in the nation, and apparently they have luck floating the clowns in those baskets with the nems.

Was it this post? If so, I don't think it's really applicable to clownfish breeding. Matt's post qualifies it as being limited to species whose sexes are determined by genotype, and those probabilities are simply derived from there being an equal number of males and females.

Clownfish are sequential hermaphrodites, so the chance of having a male and a female among a group of fish depends more on the social hierarchies from which the fish were collected. To put it another way, we're not talking about equal numbers of males and females when it comes to clownfish.

+1...this is just for general fish...getting a male and a female.

Depending on what sort of clown you have...they might switch genders back and forth in order to get a pair. Some can switch genders for the entirety of their lives, others switch once and are done.

 

[Snprhed]

That was the post, guess it doesnt apply here. Not the first time Ive had faulty memory:sure:

 

[clowns101]

A ton of information has been thrown in this thread!Dang!

The biggest thing I see here is,clownfish will change their sex for eachother,the more dominate "male" will then turn female,growing larger than the second fish,and then the second fish growing a lil bit,andbeing the male of the 2 fish.

A male clownfish can change to a female,BUT a female clownfish CAN NOT chage back to male!

 

[Snprhed]

So I still have a couple of questions. Am I likely to have problems with 4 occelaris? Would I be smarter to go ahead and pull out the second largest and the smallest? Also does the picture need to be in color?

 

[Steven Pro]

One of the biggest problems with getting clownfish to accept an anemone is the most popular species of clownfish (ocellaris and percula) don't naturally associate with the most popular anemones (BTA's). That doesn't mean it won't happen because there are some clownfish that will take to hosting in various corals, but it is just not a given.

Plus, most of the clownfish you see for sale today are captive bred. They are so many generations removed from the wild that they don't seem to have that strong need to get into an anemone for protection.

 

[ReeferChick85]

Where would you put the picture btw? Do you just tape it on the tank near the nem or anywhere? I've never heard of this route but hey whatever works right lol! Mine host my folded brain currently.

 

[Brent Ward]

I've always forced it too happen by shoving the clown into the anemone when I first put them into the tank. Fish either in a net or cup that will fit over the anemone. It gives them a safe place from all of the other fish in the tank at first.

 

[Snprhed]

Even though your from Denver that seems like a good idea

 

[Snprhed]

I think if I can get 1 to go in the rest will follow

 

[kingfisherfleshy]

A ton of information has been thrown in this thread!Dang!

The biggest thing I see here is,clownfish will change their sex for eachother,the more dominate "male" will then turn female,growing larger than the second fish,and then the second fish growing a lil bit,andbeing the male of the 2 fish.

A male clownfish can change to a female,BUT a female clownfish CAN NOT chage back to male!

This is not my understanding.

In addition to this, someclownfish, as I believe I have already mentioned, only change sex once in their lives. (Maroons)

I've always forced it too happen by shoving the clown into the anemone when I first put them into the tank. Fish either in a net or cup that will fit over the anemone. It gives them a safe place from all of the other fish in the tank at first.

There is a much better way to do this, and that is to float the anemone in a basket in your tank...and add the clownfish to the basket. Much less traumatic. In a week or so when they are officially hosted, you can remove he basket. I will be doing this in a couple weeks hopefully with my extreme misbar ORA's

Even though your from Denver that seems like a good idea

Lol. Tim Tebow.

 

[Snprhed]

Kingfish you are banned for mentioning TT

 

[kingfisherfleshy]

Kingfish you are banned for mentioning TT

I wont even complain about that.

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[clowns101]

Ive never had a female change bake to male after being female,I am familer with the anatomy of the fish quite well,and I dont see it being capable of changing back to a male after being a female.I might be wrong,and I can be wrong,not saying I am always right,but I have never seen this happen...It just dosnt make since.

Let me break it down for you as I see it.

The larger of the 2 fish,is always female,leaving the smaller of the 2 male.

If the larger one is to die,the smaller one will take its place and grow to a larger size taking the females place.

NOW,if the male is to die,the female will remain female,and pair up with a smaller mate if she chooses.

The female fish will always be larger,there for,the smaller fish know to "bow down" to her,ALWAYS keeping her female,and not changing back to male.

In the "clownfish equation" there is just not any way I can see a maroon changing back to male,there is NO WAY possible I see it!If she is female,she is already larger,and there for,the males know that!I just dont know what you are meaning.

Any way I can find a link to the information or a artical to this information that you have heard?

 

[kingfisherfleshy]

Ive never had a female change bake to male after being female,I am familer with the anatomy of the fish quite well,and I dont see it being capable of changing back to a male after being a female.I might be wrong,and I can be wrong,not saying I am always right,but I have never seen this happen...It just dosnt make since.

Let me break it down for you as I see it.

The larger of the 2 fish,is always female,leaving the smaller of the 2 male.

If the larger one is to die,the smaller one will take its place and grow to a larger size taking the females place.

NOW,if the male is to die,the female will remain female,and pair up with a smaller mate if she chooses.

The female fish will always be larger,there for,the smaller fish know to "bow down" to her,ALWAYS keeping her female,and not changing back to male.

In the "clownfish equation" there is just not any way I can see a maroon changing back to male,there is NO WAY possible I see it!If she is female,she is already larger,and there for,the males know that!I just dont know what you are meaning.

Any way I can find a link to the information or a artical to this information that you have heard?

Hey, sorry for not seeing this for so long...not too active on the site. You...in this case...are right Austin. Maroons only can change once.

Some clowns CAN change for the entirety of their lives however.

It is hard to find any good information on it...here is some bad information that says one example...it is RARE because the females are always larger, another more dominant fish would have to subdue them, but it does happen, especially with young clownfish.

Clownfish: gender swapping? - Yahoo! Answers

Only reason I know it is because of my ichthyology class...but there are some clowns that make permanent changes...this is why it is so hard to pair maroon clowns.

 

[ScottCRRT]

Might not be the most gentle wayk, but I netted mine, then stuck them over BTA. Have been hosting ever since. Don't really think it was that harsh on them.

 

[shimin]

Great thread ill put a pic up today and give it a few weeks if not ill net thanks

 

[shimin]

Also I was told to put a skunk clown in and he would show the other clowns how to host anybody done of this?