HYDROS Kraken Failed After 15 Months

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I received my Kraken on 4/25/24, and it failed just 15 months later, only three months beyond the 12-month warranty. I had hoped this was an unusual case that might lead to a quick and reasonable resolution, possibly a simple and affordable repair.

Instead, I was told the unit was unrepairable, with no clear explanation of what actually failed. That was frustrating on its own, but what disappointed me even more was the response regarding a replacement. In lieu of repair, I was offered a new unit at a slight discount. Given how recently the failure occurred after the warranty expired and how much I’ve invested in the HYDROS ecosystem, the discount felt inadequate and frankly insulting.

To be honest, the handling of this situation has left me extremely disappointed. Other companies like Neptune and Ecotech have exceeded expectations in similar scenarios, providing full replacements even a year or years past warranty. I understand that this level of support is not required, but it does foster long-term customer loyalty. Unfortunately, this experience has done the opposite.

I currently own two Launches, two Wave Engines, an XP8, XP4, and the Kraken. I moved away from my Neptune Apex setup largely because I was excited about the upcoming Maven. But with the Maven still unreleased and this being the second hardware failure I’ve experienced (the first being a Wave Engine that failed under warranty), I am seriously reevaluating whether continuing with HYDROS is the right decision.

I expected better.

Most importantly, this experience highlighted what I now see as a significant weakness of the Kraken. For me, it became a single point of failure. It powered my XP4, two Wave Engines, two return pumps, and multiple 12V and 24V components. When the Kraken failed, it took hours, essentially my entire weekend, to get my system back online. That kind of vulnerability is something I can’t ignore moving forward.
 
I didnt have a good experience with CoralVues support in the past either. I try and stay away from them now.
 
I have had my 2 Krakens for a long time and so far I have had no issues with either. I still have all the power supplies that they replaced that I can use if I did have a failure of one of the units. So it would be just a matter of pulling them out and hooking them up again.
 
I have had my 2 Krakens for a long time and so far I have had no issues with either. I still have all the power supplies that they replaced that I can use if I did have a failure of one of the units. So it would be just a matter of pulling them out and hooking them up again.
I’m glad to hear that you’ve had your two Krakens for a long time. How long has it been, if you don’t mind me asking? I’m also curious, if one or both were to fail, how long would it take you to get everything back up and running? And what about if something happened while you were away on an expensive vacation? Unfortunately, in my case, my tank sitter wouldn’t be able to handle that kind of setup easily. Honestly, I’m not even sure my LFS could do it.
 
I have photos from the middle of June 2023 for one of the Krakens so I have had then that long. It would probably take 3 to 4 hours but the main thing would be power to the return pump. The flow pumps have a battery backup for them so I would not be in a big hurry for them. We usually have one of our kids that comes over to feed or cat so They could probably handle it. I can talk them through the most important things to do. One of them is in the garage at my mixing station which has everything off except the ATO and I usually setup a separate ATO that would have the tubing hooked up so I can switch to it if needed. The ATO pump I use which is a Sole is not powered by the Kraken though. Most of the other things in the garage are usually turned off until I get back anyway. The DI reservoir holds 20 gallons when full and I would make sure it is full before leaving. The AWC I do not leave running when I am gone. I also turn off the manual valve to the RODI so it does not run while we are gone.
 
Given how much the kraken costs, maybe it’s worth it to see if a local electronics repair place can open it and look for a dead capacitor, bad solder or dead chip. As long as it’s not the CPU or other proprietary chip it should be fixable for less than a replacement.
 
I received my Kraken on 4/25/24, and it failed just 15 months later, only three months beyond the 12-month warranty. I had hoped this was an unusual case that might lead to a quick and reasonable resolution, possibly a simple and affordable repair.

Instead, I was told the unit was unrepairable, with no clear explanation of what actually failed. That was frustrating on its own, but what disappointed me even more was the response regarding a replacement. In lieu of repair, I was offered a new unit at a slight discount. Given how recently the failure occurred after the warranty expired and how much I’ve invested in the HYDROS ecosystem, the discount felt inadequate and frankly insulting.

To be honest, the handling of this situation has left me extremely disappointed. Other companies like Neptune and Ecotech have exceeded expectations in similar scenarios, providing full replacements even a year or years past warranty. I understand that this level of support is not required, but it does foster long-term customer loyalty. Unfortunately, this experience has done the opposite.

I currently own two Launches, two Wave Engines, an XP8, XP4, and the Kraken. I moved away from my Neptune Apex setup largely because I was excited about the upcoming Maven. But with the Maven still unreleased and this being the second hardware failure I’ve experienced (the first being a Wave Engine that failed under warranty), I am seriously reevaluating whether continuing with HYDROS is the right decision.

I expected better.

Most importantly, this experience highlighted what I now see as a significant weakness of the Kraken. For me, it became a single point of failure. It powered my XP4, two Wave Engines, two return pumps, and multiple 12V and 24V components. When the Kraken failed, it took hours, essentially my entire weekend, to get my system back online. That kind of vulnerability is something I can’t ignore moving forward.

This is disheartening to hear, not necessarily the hardware failure as these things happen, but the lack of sensitivity to customer care considering how much we invest in these ecosystems. I hope CoralVue reconsiders for you.
 
Given how much the kraken costs, maybe it’s worth it to see if a local electronics repair place can open it and look for a dead capacitor, bad solder or dead chip. As long as it’s not the CPU or other proprietary chip it should be fixable for less than a replacement.

Despite multiple requests, they will not return my Kraken. I just sent another request today. FixReef has done wonders for me in the past. I should have sent It there first. My guess is that Coralvue never repairs, only offers a slight discount on a replacement.

This is disheartening to hear, not necessarily the hardware failure as these things happen, but the lack of sensitivity to customer care considering how much we invest in these ecosystems. I hope CoralVue reconsiders for you.

It certainly is. Unfortunately, I've had several Hydros component failures inducing a Wave Engine, multiple cables, and the Kraken, and the customer support was underwhelming. Previously, I ran an Apex (for many years) with only one minor issue that was quickly resolved. I am most likely going back to Apex, as both the hardware and customer support have been excellent.
 
Despite multiple requests, they will not return my Kraken. I just sent another request today. FixReef has done wonders for me in the past. I should have sent It there first. My guess is that Coralvue never repairs, only offers a slight discount on a replacement.



It certainly is. Unfortunately, I've had several Hydros component failures inducing a Wave Engine, multiple cables, and the Kraken, and the customer support was underwhelming. Previously, I ran an Apex (for many years) with only one minor issue that was quickly resolved. I am most likely going back to Apex, as both the hardware and customer support have been excellent.
Were you able to get your hardware back from them? This seems very wrong. Unless they sent a refund, that is essentially stealing…. You bought and paid for it! I sure hope this isn’t the type of service culture they have adopted… I had high hopes for the hydros platform and CoralVue. I’m new to reefing, so no experience with other controllers but I did a ton of reading before getting into the hobby, including research on controllers. They all seem to have their failures, but support is another story.
 
How they handle support turned me away from buying anything anymore from any of the brands they own or distribute. Brand new items out of the box if you need rma you pay shipping. Not something that died months later. Something doa. Defective. Out of the box. I noped out after that. Thats horrible customer service.
 
I bought my Kraken on 09/2024 and it bricked today right after I updated the firmware. Support gave me the option to send it back for inspections which I will have to pay. I feared they will tell me a repair cost that I wouldn't think it's worth it to fix or they will tell me it can't be repaired like yours.

Luckily, I anticipated that one day this might happen and I might get burned with relying on those unique 24V and 12V plugs. I had bought a used XP8 on the forum months ago and added it to the collective. It has many ports open so I will move my equipment from the Kraken over to the XP8 and just use that from now on.

Not happy with Hydros and how my Kraken bricked after the update...
 
I bought my Kraken on 09/2024 and it bricked today right after I updated the firmware. Support gave me the option to send it back for inspections which I will have to pay. I feared they will tell me a repair cost that I wouldn't think it's worth it to fix or they will tell me it can't be repaired like yours.

Luckily, I anticipated that one day this might happen and I might get burned with relying on those unique 24V and 12V plugs. I had bought a used XP8 on the forum months ago and added it to the collective. It has many ports open so I will move my equipment from the Kraken over to the XP8 and just use that from now on.

Not happy with Hydros and how my Kraken bricked after the update...
Sorry to hear. Mind sharing what exactly happened post update? I’m interested to hear the failure mode. I run 3 krakens and curious to what occurred.
 
After updating, the Kraken won't turn on. I tried to powercycle, change power source, remove it from collective, use a port on the xp8 where i know there's power and working. None of those worked. My initial idea was to revert back the firmware but the Kraken won't turn on so I can't do anything.

Coralvue got on the phone with me and they said they will have to open it up and inspect it. I give them credit for getting on the phone with me within 2hrs after contacting them via email. The rep told me he doesn't think it's the Meanwell power brick because they only ever had like 2-3 failures with that and he doesn't think it's the firmware because they have thousand I people updated with no issues. However, my Kraken never had issues prior to the update so I still think the update caused it.

The rep told me not to worry and they will take care of me even if it's outside warranty period. However, I'm not satisfied with what was offered to me and I don't think that's taking care of the customers. You have to send the unit to them, cover the shipping there and back, and pay a $35 diagnostic fee. After they look at it, they will give you repair cost if they can fix it or tell you if can't be fixed (at which point I assume you would be offered a new unit at a slight discount from what the original poster said). Too many unknowns for me and I have a working spare XP8 so I just moved on.
 

WHICH PART OF YOUR SETUP IS HARDEST TO REACH OR REMOVE FOR ROUTINE MAINTENANCE?

  • Glass behind or beside the tank

    Votes: 3 18.8%
  • Powerheads or wavemakers

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Sump or rear filtration chambers

    Votes: 2 12.5%
  • Skimmer or other filtration equipment

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • Overflow or plumbing

    Votes: 5 31.3%
  • Lights or lids

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  • Mine is pretty easy to access!

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