I think my asfur has broklynella

[Sleepingtiger]

My asfur is covered in this white cotton thing. At first I thought it was just a scrape but he is now covered. He is still eating well. Please verify so I can start treatment.

 

[Reeflix]

#fishmedic

 

[Jay Hemdal]

My asfur is covered in this white cotton thing. At first I thought it was just a scrape but he is now covered. He is still eating well. Please verify so I can start treatment.

What is the history of the fish and the tank? Specifically, how long have you had the angel, when was the last fish added to the tank? No other fish with any symptoms?

Because the fish is still eating well, you can rule out velvet. In my opinion, that also rules out Brooklynella, as once a fish has an infection that bad, it normally stops feeding and begins to swim "mopey".

That leaves, "stale ich", bacterial disease, or flukes.

With stale ich, you would have had to have missed the discrete small whiter spots on the fish that lead up to this. Are you confident that the fish had no spots over the past week?

Leaving us with flukes or bacteria. Flukes can be checked for with a five minute FW dip. You won't see the smaller species of fluke in the dip water afterwards, but the fish will improve 24 to 36 hours after the dip.

Bacterial issues are rare, and would require moving the fish to a treatment tank.

Jay

 

[Sleepingtiger]

The asfur was the last fish added. He was in visual quarantine for 2 weeks before added to display.
He has been in the tank now for a week

I am quite confident I didn't see spots before.

I have quite a few fish in there, no other fish has this symptom which made me thing it was bacterial and not brooklynella. I wanted to make sure. I will move the fish to quarantine and treat with freshwater dip and may observation with methelyne blue.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

The asfur was the last fish added. He was in visual quarantine for 2 weeks before added to display.
He has been in the tank now for a week

I am quite confident I didn't see spots before.

I have quite a few fish in there, no other fish has this symptom which made me thing it was bacterial and not brooklynella. I wanted to make sure. I will move the fish to quarantine and treat with freshwater dip and may observation with methelyne blue.

This species commonly develops flukes, and the timing is right for that issue. Look in the dip with a magnifying glass to see if you can see any dead flukes after the dip.

Jay

 

[Sleepingtiger]

This species commonly develops flukes, and the timing is right for that issue. Look in the dip with a magnifying glass to see if you can see any dead flukes after the dip.

Jay

So Thursday night, I fished the asfur out and did a freshwater bath and then placed into a quarantine tank with methylene blue. Within a day he is eating again. I fished him out yesterday to do a visual inspection and he looks clean. I moved him back into display and his appetite is back to what it was before. He is now clean of all the cotton looking patche and active as ever. I hope he doesn't have any reoccurring infections. Thanks team!

 

[Jay Hemdal]

So Thursday night, I fished the asfur out and did a freshwater bath and then placed into a quarantine tank with methylene blue. Within a day he is eating again. I fished him out yesterday to do a visual inspection and he looks clean. I moved him back into display and his appetite is back to what it was before. He is now clean of all the cotton looking patche and active as ever. I hope he doesn't have any reoccurring infections. Thanks team!

Good news!

Just be wary - FW dips usually do not cure fish, they just knock the infection back for a time.

Jay

 

[Sleepingtiger]

Good news!

Just be wary - FW dips usually do not cure fish, they just knock the infection back for a time.

Jay

I hear you. I am not sure if its stale ich or flukes. I looked in the freshwater to see if there was any flukes. It was hard to tell as he took a poop when I placed him in there. Best case scenario, he had flukes and its not stale ich.

Do you have an article that further discusses stale ich? This is the first time I heard of such a thing.

 

[YoubetyourWrasse]

So was it Neobenedenia? I love Asfur...Red Sea Angels. One of my favorites...routing for the fish for sure. Good luck!

 

[Sleepingtiger]

So was it Neobenedenia? I love Asfur...Red Sea Angels. One of my favorites...routing for the fish for sure. Good luck!

i honestly don't know. I just know the asfur wasn't happy in quarantine and I never have much luck with quarantine for an extended period of time so I felt rushed to get the fish back into the display.

 

[Jay Hemdal]

I hear you. I am not sure if its stale ich or flukes. I looked in the freshwater to see if there was any flukes. It was hard to tell as he took a poop when I placed him in there. Best case scenario, he had flukes and its not stale ich.

Do you have an article that further discusses stale ich? This is the first time I heard of such a thing.

"Stale ich" is just a term I coined for an uncontrolled ich infection that has gone on a long time. The symptoms it shows are not the same as ich looks like in early stages...more congested / cloudy skin, less distinct white spots.

Jay