Ich?

Humblefish · Feb 27, 2017

xZxHadesxZx said:
Yeah he was pooping lol

Was the poop white & stringy? If so, read this: https://www.reef2reef.com/threads/internal-parasites-intestinal-worms.267419/

4FordFamily · Feb 27, 2017

Humblefish said:
Looks like ich, but could also be sand stuck to his mucous coat. If it's still there tomorrow, he has ich.

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xZxHadesxZx · Feb 27, 2017

Ok so what's my step by step here?

Humblefish · Feb 27, 2017

xZxHadesxZx said:
Ok so what's my step by step here?

Can you get Coppersafe & Seachem Metroplex? You'll also need Seachem Focus to bind metro to the fish's food.

xZxHadesxZx · Feb 27, 2017

Any good fish store is closed by now but possibly tomorrow

melypr1985 · Feb 27, 2017

Humblefish said:
Can you get Coppersafe & Seachem Metroplex? You'll also need Seachem Focus to bind metro to the fish's food.

+1. This is the direction to go.

xZxHadesxZx · Feb 28, 2017

So i rushed out to petco because it was the only thing open and i got some kordons ich attack, started treating. Nice because its an herbal treatment, weird smell, but my god that stuff works wonders. gave first dose last night around 9ish and by 7am this morning in my rush to work most of the spots had cleared up!!!! Going to continue the treatment with this stuff and pray for the best. Will be going to my lfs most likely after work today and getting the meds to mix with the food because i dont want them to have parasites and white stringy poop

xZxHadesxZx · Feb 28, 2017

THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR YOUR INPUTS GREATLY APPRECIATED!!!!!!

Brew12 · Feb 28, 2017

xZxHadesxZx said:
So i rushed out to petco because it was the only thing open and i got some kordons ich attack, started treating. Nice because its an herbal treatment, weird smell, but my god that stuff works wonders. gave first dose last night around 9ish and by 7am this morning in my rush to work most of the spots had cleared up!!!! Going to continue the treatment with this stuff and pray for the best. Will be going to my lfs most likely after work today and getting the meds to mix with the food because i dont want them to have parasites and white stringy poop

You aren't going to like this but Ich Attack doesn't work wonders. People have mixed results on how effective it is but even Kordon states that it doesn't work on Ich while in the "white spot" phase. If the white spots are gone, it is because they are dropping off the fish to reproduce. The only stage Ich can be effectively treated is after it hatches and before it attaches to the fish.

Per their website.

"If the fish have white spot disease, also called Ich (Ichthiophthirius), the treatment will need to be made daily every day without omission until all of the "white spots” have hatched out and their young have been killed by the treatments. This may take weeks for all of the "white spots" to hatch out. While they are in the "white spot" stage on the fish, there is no known effective treatment. Only when the "white spots" hatch out and are in a brief free-swimming stage are they susceptible to treatment. "

xZxHadesxZx · Feb 28, 2017

Brew12 said:
You aren't going to like this but Ich Attack doesn't work wonders. People have mixed results on how effective it is but even Kordon states that it doesn't work on Ich while in the "white spot" phase. If the white spots are gone, it is because they are dropping off the fish to reproduce. The only stage Ich can be effectively treated is after it hatches and before it attaches to the fish.

Per their website.

"If the fish have white spot disease, also called Ich (Ichthiophthirius), the treatment will need to be made daily every day without omission until all of the "white spots” have hatched out and their young have been killed by the treatments. This may take weeks for all of the "white spots" to hatch out. While they are in the "white spot" stage on the fish, there is no known effective treatment. Only when the "white spots" hatch out and are in a brief free-swimming stage are they susceptible to treatment. "

Yeah I read that as well. And I'm going to be dosing everyday faithfully. And for at least a week maybe more. Just need to get the stuff for their food next.

Brew12 · Feb 28, 2017

xZxHadesxZx said:
Yeah I read that as well. And I'm going to be dosing everyday faithfully. And for at least a week maybe more. Just need to get the stuff for their food next.

To give it the best chance of working you will need to treat it for a minimum of 14 days based on the lifecycle of marine Ich.

xZxHadesxZx · Feb 28, 2017

Humblefish said:
Can you get Coppersafe & Seachem Metroplex? You'll also need Seachem Focus to bind metro to the fish's food.

So coming home today his mouth is swollen and white. What does this mean?

xZxHadesxZx · Feb 28, 2017

Still with white stringy poop. Can the ich do this or is it something else?

Humblefish · Feb 28, 2017

xZxHadesxZx said:
So coming home today his mouth is swollen and white. What does this mean?

Can you post a photo of this?

xZxHadesxZx said:
Still with white stringy poop. Can the ich do this or is it something else?

No, that is a symptom of internal parasites/intestinal worms.

xZxHadesxZx · Feb 28, 2017

I wanted to take him out but failed and now the poop is gone and his lips are not white but they are still kinda swollen

xZxHadesxZx · Feb 28, 2017

Humblefish said:
Can you post a photo of this?

No, that is a symptom of internal parasites/intestinal worms.

4FordFamily · Feb 28, 2017

The top fish looks like it has brook or velvet but it could very well be the blurry shot. Can you provide a better pic?

melypr1985 · Feb 28, 2017

Brew12 said:
"If the fish have white spot disease, also called Ich (Ichthiophthirius), the treatment will need to be made daily every day without omission until all of the "white spots” have hatched out and their young have been killed by the treatments. This may take weeks for all of the "white spots" to hatch out. While they are in the "white spot" stage on the fish, there is no known effective treatment. Only when the "white spots" hatch out and are in a brief free-swimming stage are they susceptible to treatment. "

I just wanted to point out that this is referring to freshwater ich, not saltwater ich which is Cryptocaryon irritans, not Ichthiophthirius.