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Seems like there'd be a market for a captive breeder on that side of the pond then.I would agree with you but over this side of the pond getting Biota or ORA cb fish is a PITA. This would also get rid of many fish that nobody knows how to breed in captivity such as wrasses, many of the gobies (We don’t actually captive breed many of the gobies available in the hobby), almost every Angel and the vast majority of tangs.
My biota mandarins eat everything from mysis to pellets to flake. The fact that they prefer pods in big tanks isn't a problem. They absolutely have a higher survival rate, and they're super easy to keep.If I could ban one fish from importers lists.... Mandarins.
99% of wild caught mandys starve to death. They are usually so emaciated when they get to our tanks, they just die despite having a large pod populations. Once they reach that extremely emaciated stage, they just refuse to eat, saving any energy they have trying to survive, and not wasting it on eating.
Captive bred in my opinion doesn't help, as my biota mandy reverted to pod only in my tanks that has a large pod population. He is fat and happy, but eats nothing but pods.
These truly are expert only fish, if only for their specialized eating habits.
I hear that, but love what Biota is doing, and I've only lost one after many years in the tank, I've always had one in my tanks over the 20 years+ of saltwater, just lucky I guess, but I plan for them, refugium attached to tank with large amounts of love rock.Mandarin
… too many die in our tanks
None. Any of them can be kept if properly collected and maintained. Blanket banning of animals leads to banning of more and more until eventually they are all banned. It's a slippery slope.
But if say that slippery slopes are a logical fallacy, won't we soon call all logic a fallacy?Except slippery slope is a famous logical fallacy
Strongly agree.None. But.. I think more difficult fish should come in way lower numbers and be charged a premium price.. there should also be serious penalties for poor collection methods. LFS should be WAY more responsible and heavily advise against certain species of fish and at the very least offer full QT to customers willing to pay or who can’t do so themselves. There is more profit in a long term customer than a quick sale so no excuses.
the wild mandarins are possible to keep if you have a large "dirty" tank, but if you dont have that, you need to have the cb ones.yeah the fact that on liveaquaria, about 3 weeks ago, mandrins were like 20 bucks. I thankfully didn't take the plunge (although God knows I was tempted) and listened to the advice on here. but many people I'm afraid didn't.
LOL! You are probably right.....sigh....one can always hope....I never 100% trust a LFS. I am friends with the owners and employees where I shop, but that doesn't mean they don't give iffy advice to newbies.That is a giant leap for mankind…as in you expect too much.
Definitely a great point! I have never owned Chromis, especially with the chance of Uronoma.....but before that I just never was into schooling fish so I never tried them.But in the case of the chromis, no one, has figured out what to do to fix Uronema, we have ways to maybe prevent it, but we have no way of curing or treating it, also with chromis aggression, we have no fix. most reefers (even experienced ones) say that they whittle themselves down to 1.
And this might be a doomsday tangent but if we ever got a strain of Uronema that was as dangerous to other fish as it is to Chromis and Anthias, that really could end the hobby.
Can't be any worse than my maroon, plus she was ruthless killing her mate. Still, she's front and center and loves her nem and leaves everyone else alone.Tomato Clowns. Mine is as mean as Mama Fratelli, tries to bite my hand whenever possible, and loves to use her tail to blow my sugar sand all over the place.
But if say that slippery slopes are a logical fallacy, won't we soon call all logic a fallacy?
Sorry, dumb jokeWhat? What are you talking about?