Interesting Dino Observation

[Scooter90254]

Brief history.

Dino's took me out of the hobby about 5 years ago. Just about 1 year ago I decided to give it another shot. All new stuff and what do you know 4-5 months ago another dino out break.

Long story short I bought a house down the road kind of out of the blue and had to move.

About a week I finally moved the tank one mile from my old home to the new home. Move went well and everything looks good. Interestingly enough the Dinos are basically gone now? They were as bad as ever before the move.....

Thoughts?

Did he move somehow kill the Dinos?

Is it too early to celebrate?

Do you think they will come back?

 

[James M]

Are you sure it was dinos and not a diatom bloom.

 

[Instigate]

Did you replace your sand?

 

[AltitudeAquarium]

Brief history.

Dino's took me out of the hobby about 5 years ago. Just about 1 year ago I decided to give it another shot. All new stuff and what do you know 4-5 months ago another dino out break.

Long story short I bought a house down the road kind of out of the blue and had to move.

About a week I finally moved the tank one mile from my old home to the new home. Move went well and everything looks good. Interestingly enough the Dinos are basically gone now? They were as bad as ever before the move.....

Thoughts?

Did he move somehow kill the Dinos?

Is it too early to celebrate?

Do you think they will come back?

Is your water system different? Did you change your substrate or rock systems? Any changes did you make to your sump system? Sometimes the cleaning/removal of components may have impacted the nutrient load within your aquarium. Also, you may have indirectly changed the microbial competition and allowed for the control of dinos/diatoms. Just my opinion.

 

[ZoWhat]

Sorry for my bluntness.....

Quit OVERFEEDING your fish.



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[Burrito]

how do you know hes overfeeding? or just a general thought since we all tend to overfeed

 

[dugthefish]

Sorry for my bluntness.....

Quit OVERFEEDING your fish.



.

How exactly did you deduce he was overfeeding?

 

[Instigate]

how do you know hes overfeeding? or just a general thought since we all tend to overfeed

How exactly did you deduce he was overfeeding?

Also, even if he was overfeeding, what would that have to do with dinos? If anything raising no3 and po4 would help battle the dinos. Skim always seems to be throwing out nonsense...

Anyways, I have had a similar situation to the OP. I was experiencing an outbreak of Amphidinium and while raising no3 and po4 along with bacteria additives I was seeing great improvement. But then I moved. I replaced the sand bed with sand I had thoroughly rinsed and dried and haven't seen a bloom since. I have taken some samples and found the odd dino here and there but not Amphidinium.

 

[ZoWhat]

How exactly did you deduce he was overfeeding?

Seriously? Dinos comes from excess nutrients. Not from fairy pixie dust. Lol

 

[dugthefish]

Seriously? Dinos comes from excess nutrients. Not from fairy pixie dust. Lol

That's weird, cuz all the dino threads talk about LOW nutrients being a root cause.....

 

[Burrito]

Most strands will come from low to zero nutrients according to a lot of smart people in a million post thread

 

[Instigate]

Seriously? Dinos comes from excess nutrients. Not from fairy pixie dust. Lol

If you bothered to do a little research you would find that you're incorrect. It's no mystery where they come from and it's not excess nutrients.

 

[marlinmon]

Seriously? Dinos comes from excess nutrients. Not from fairy pixie dust. Lol

Over feeding is how I rid my tank of dinos...

 

[Gareth elliott]

I think this is a case of everyone is right :)

In the wild dinoflagellate blooms or HAB(harmful algae bloom) like those in florida are caused by increased nutrients linked to fertilizer run off. These species are the ones that make the news, cause fish kills etc.

In our tanks these species rarely exist, many of the species we encounter are heterotrophs that have many feeding methods that allow them to outcompete other life(diatoms in particular) in nutrient limited environments.

 

[Instigate]

I think this is a case of everyone is right :)

In the wild dinoflagellate blooms or HAB(harmful algae bloom) like those in florida are caused by increased nutrients linked to fertilizer run off. These species are the ones that make the news, cause fish kills etc.

In our tanks these species rarely exist, many of the species we encounter are heterotrophs that have many feeding methods that allow them to outcompete other life(diatoms in particular) in nutrient limited environments.

Correct. Except we're not talking about the ocean, we're talking about an aquarium. Telling someone to reduce nutrient input to battle dinos in your fish tank is objectively bad advice.

 

[Gareth elliott]

To add my own dino experience test po4 after your dinos have gone away if used dosing it.
Your tank will not perpetually need that amount to stay above 0.
Basically skip the extra work i gave myself [emoji23]

 

[Scooter90254]

100% for sure Dino’s.

I run a bare bottom tank. I did clean the sump and pumps during the move.

They are still gone tonight. It’s crazy.

Nothing I tired helped them and then in just a couple days after the move they all disappeared. I wonder if I released a lot of PO4 during the move like mentioned above.

Hopefully they don’t come back!

 

[Scooter90254]

Sorry for my bluntness.....

Quit OVERFEEDING your fish.



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lol. Seriously.....

This post is so ignorant I have to assume you are being sarcastic.

Made me laugh.

My Dino problem is most likely caused by lack of nutrients not the other way around.

 

[Skynyrd Fish]

It’s weird. I run an old school tank the same way for 30 years. There was no such thing as Dino outbreaks back in the day. I don’t know what is different in the hobby last ten years. I have had Dino’s twice in the last four years. The only difference is possibly a better skimmer. I used to run an ASM g4, I switched to a reefdynamics ins 180, and currently run a reefdynamics ins135. I almost want to blame the salt. My ro/di is probably better also. IO salt used to be way better in my opinion in the early 90’s. They definitely made changes to it since then. Caking agents and other things??? Sorry about the old school rant. I hate dino’s.

I wonder if your move caused some bio film to be disturbed. Cleaning the sump would have removed detritus also. How much water did you change?

 

[hart24601]

If you bothered to do a little research you would find that you're incorrect. It's no mystery where they come from and it's not excess nutrients.

Right? It’s like 75% of the Dino issues are fixed with more nutrients. Surprised ppl still recommend reducing nutrients.