Invert suggestions wanted for a 5gal

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@Crabs+Shrimps-69

:O that. sucks. I first saw them on a YT channel by a fish store showing off one of their builds and I was like 'oh! a nano invert I haven't seen!'

Thank you for letting me know! I wish companies would be more upfront about the actual difficulties of the living things they sell

Would you also apply that to porcelain crabs? They're filter feeders too?


Thank you for your input!


@dansyr

They do! And you're welcome, although they may not be as suitable as the website and me made them seem - see above :(

I agree, I'd beat myself up if I bought a little guy, brought it home and then watched it die. I don't even know if research would have picked that up (I haven't done much invert research as of yet, but I'm getting closer to being able to stock stuff, so I should)

What I've been doing is checking out all the websites that'll ship critters to me and seeing what they have in stock and out of stock, just to find out if there's any rarely mentioned critter that might be available

I SAW THOSE! I don't think I'll get into SPS, but that looked awesome!


I'm also upgrading my Fluval Spec III to a Spec V - if I find out more about the blue coral banded in that tank I'll let you know - I have heard they can be dangerous, but some people say only to other shrimp, others say in general?

What else have you considered?
Death would be bad for sure, I'm a little odder in that I feel slightly bad if they're not in something resembling their native habitat almost as much. for example clowns without anemones, sand-loving critters doing 'OK' without sand, etc.

I've had a hard time coming up with good ideas, besides trapezius when things grow in more. I did break down and get a maxi mini nem so anemone symbionts (pedersons shrimps etc) are a possibility if I can get it to move from near my powerhead.

What's your other stocking or setup constraints? Honestly a Fluval V might be a good pom pom crab setup if you have more open shade pockets - bunch of zoas, maybe some micromussas or pico-friendly LPS, and a nice couple taller softie things? Sexy shrimp are awesome, love them but have them in my other tank already. Do you have clams / important sessile inverts (feather dusters etc) in your plans? I am so that constrains things, also I want SPS to grow well so no anemones, but if you can do RFSs and such, anemone shrimp would be great.
 
@Crabs+Shrimps-69

:O that. sucks. I first saw them on a YT channel by a fish store showing off one of their builds and I was like 'oh! a nano invert I haven't seen!'

Thank you for letting me know! I wish companies would be more upfront about the actual difficulties of the living things they sell

Would you also apply that to porcelain crabs? They're filter feeders too?
I've also really wanted a squat lobster, I can imagine how cool it would be having that symbiotic relationship in my tank. There aren't many other reef safe lobsters either!

Which channel had a video of squat lobsters?

Porcelain crabs are different, since they don't just filter feed, but also eat meaty foods. The most popular ones in our hobby have symbiotic relationships with anemones, but with also happily have coral host them instead of anemones.
 
@dansyr

oh :( that's sad too! like they can't fulfil their true purpose

!! I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to add mini maxis and rock flower nems to one or other of these small tanks, mostly because I want a porcelain crab (maybe) or sexy shrimp or some other nem-loving critter.

Have you heard about cosmic nano gobies (eviota lachdeberei)? They form symbiotic relationships with plate coral?

I was going to do a pair with a fungia in my 13.5 evo, but I can't find them in the UK, and am honestly pretty disappointed about it, but maybe you could try? I was going to source them from Biota (I swear I saw a source of Biota fish here in the UK, but I can't find it now for love nor money)

I was thinking about a clam, but not in my 5 gal - I was considering my 26 gal, but I ixnayed that idea, at least until a few years down the road after my frogfish and clown/nem stocking ideas - that is, I want to try a frogfish, and THEN clowns with a nem, not both together, lol

I've always considered feather dusters too difficult for me to try, but I don't know... I'm indecisive about what to put in my 2 gal jar vs this new 5 gal spec, but feathers were a passing consideration

I had this idea of building opposing 'piles' of rock in either corner of the Spec V tank, kind of facing each other (in the red corner! in the blue corner!) with space behind them so I can see what's going on under there, but IDK if it'd create too many problems with dead spots unless I scape really carefully. MIght give it a try when the tank gets here ,should be this week.

I'm considering a flaming prawn goby and maybe a fairy goby of some kind, but I haven't done thorough research just yet - I suspect they'd be okay together because one is more ground dwelling, the other more swimming, but honestly I'm not sure

The stocking for my fluval 13.5 covers barnacle blennies, which I'd otherwise try in this 5 gal

I was considering catalina gobies, but they don't want to be cool, they want to be COLD, and I'd need a chiller and I just can't faff around with another one (I need to get one to set up an axolotl tank)

Maybe some trimma gobies? I really liked them when I saw them in my old LFS before I moved, they are really cute.

I'm not THAT interested in SPS, however, that doesn't mean I wouldn't try a cheap stick in a couple of tanks, just to see. I've seen other people manage with them, but IDK, might be too difficult for me.

When we go back to the blue coral banded, that makes me leery of putting tiny creatures in with it - the guy on his own (with snails, etc, but no other shrimp) in the 2 gal might be cool, but I'm still trying to find out if that'd be too small for it.

I'm considering mushrooms if not RFS/mini maxis in the 5 gal, just a whole load of shrooms, maybe in like segmented rainbow colors (at first, until they break free and do what they want! lol)

The thing about those dwarf nems is the average price is like £50 here for one, which makes my wallet scream whenever it thinks about it.

I actually decided to turn the Spec III freshwater and replace it with a Spec V because of the flaming prawn gobies though - I thought the III might be too small, but now I'm wondering if the V is too big :s


@Crabs+Shrimps-69

No! and they're so tiny!

I found a 'short' here:

but I can't for the life of me find the full length vid it was in, I'm sure there was one. I saw it years ago and popped them on my list to check out back then. I swear there was a longer vid with more info on them :S

oooh, nice. I might look into them again then, I had dismissed them because I heard they were hard to feed.

I wish reefers had a site like seriouslyfish for FW fish - it'd be amazing to have more concrete guidelines (oxymoron?) on tank size, compatibility, feeding, etc
 
@Crabs+Shrimps-69

No! and they're so tiny!

I found a 'short' here:

but I can't for the life of me find the full length vid it was in, I'm sure there was one. I saw it years ago and popped them on my list to check out back then. I swear there was a longer vid with more info on them :S

oooh, nice. I might look into them again then, I had dismissed them because I heard they were hard to feed.

I wish reefers had a site like seriouslyfish for FW fish - it'd be amazing to have more concrete guidelines (oxymoron?) on tank size, compatibility, feeding, etc

I feel like I've seen that short before.

Normally FragboxTV don't make long form videos on every short they make, you might be getting confuse with their video on the purple spiny lobster.

I agree that a sister would be nice for info on these kinds of inverts.

Also feather dusters aren't hard to keep, and you might even get some as hitchhikers!
 
Yeah feather dusters aren't that bad especially if you're ok with adding phyto from time to time, though maybe more challenging in a 2-3g but still seems fine. And the little feather dusters that come as hitchhikers are so cool (and even hardier IMO?). I like the little red feathered ones.

I'm leery about recommending a fish intentionally for a 5g. For context, I have a yellow clown goby in a 20g long and while he sets up shop on a stag and rock combo that's probably about a 5g footprint (12x cube?) he uses the full middle of the tank flitting around inspecting things or playing with the green clown goby, The working area of the tank is 12"x28"x12" and I would say he uses a full 20", maybe 24" of the middle.

The eviota and trimmas may be more suited, especially with the aspect ratio of the fluval, but i don't know as much about them.

maybe farm asterinas or something in the 2g and make the 5g a bumblebee shrimp paradise? or vice versa?
 
@Crabs+Shrimps-69 I SWEAR it was a longer vid. It was definitely about squat lobsters because it was the first time I'd seen them and spurred me to jot them down as a possible critter to keep.

It could just have been the short... maybe I read the comments and that's confused me? ;_; I am easily confused.

And I do get hallucinations, but not like that

It's a big ask from the people who know, though, a huge undertaking of time and effort for no money. And then you get all the flak of people who don't agree on both sides.

!!! Uh oh... I did a little research on them yesterday (very little and very surface skimming) I know they need to bury their bodies in sand, do you think filling holes in the rock with sand would allow them to live in there? They could use the rock and then the sandbed underneath it? IDK, I don't really know what I'm talking about here, lol



@dansyr I think when I set up the Spec V I'll be adding phyto for the pod population I want to get going in there before any fish go in, and I'll probably keep doing that sporadically throughout - if I need to filter feed I could just add that to the usual tank feeds

I've had a little yellow man too, in the 13.5, but he kept getting into the back part? They're not the first fish I was considering for the Spec V, but the little prawn goby and possibly the fairy goby - I'm waiting on people with more knowledge about stocking than me to get back to me on that.

I wish we could get eviotas here :( I might go with trimmas. I might cross out the clown gobies though, they are bigger built

I don't think bumblebees eat asterinas? They eat tube feet, and asterina don't have those. I think I'll make more decisive decisions once I see the tank, lol

Also asked my stocking friend about the blue coral banded shrimp, and I'll let you know once they get back to me :)
 
@Crabs+Shrimps-69 I SWEAR it was a longer vid. It was definitely about squat lobsters because it was the first time I'd seen them and spurred me to jot them down as a possible critter to keep.

It could just have been the short... maybe I read the comments and that's confused me? ;_; I am easily confused.

And I do get hallucinations, but not like that

It's a big ask from the people who know, though, a huge undertaking of time and effort for no money. And then you get all the flak of people who don't agree on both sides.

!!! Uh oh... I did a little research on them yesterday (very little and very surface skimming) I know they need to bury their bodies in sand, do you think filling holes in the rock with sand would allow them to live in there? They could use the rock and then the sandbed underneath it? IDK, I don't really know what I'm talking about here, lol



@dansyr I think when I set up the Spec V I'll be adding phyto for the pod population I want to get going in there before any fish go in, and I'll probably keep doing that sporadically throughout - if I need to filter feed I could just add that to the usual tank feeds

I've had a little yellow man too, in the 13.5, but he kept getting into the back part? They're not the first fish I was considering for the Spec V, but the little prawn goby and possibly the fairy goby - I'm waiting on people with more knowledge about stocking than me to get back to me on that.

I wish we could get eviotas here :( I might go with trimmas. I might cross out the clown gobies though, they are bigger built

I don't think bumblebees eat asterinas? They eat tube feet, and asterina don't have those. I think I'll make more decisive decisions once I see the tank, lol

Also asked my stocking friend about the blue coral banded shrimp, and I'll let you know once they get back to me :)
hmm do asterina/aquionastra not have tube feet? never knew that, figured they did. the more you learn.
 
@dansyr apparently not! I only found out because I did a little google to see what their care was like. it said that harlequin shrimp may eat them though?

In other news, I was excited to tell you, I got this from my stocking guru: "A ble coral banded shrimp could be fine in a 2g. I wouldn't trust it with shrimp and fish smaller than it."

Might try it as a solo occupant of my pico jar, transfer him if he looks uncomfortable
 
@Crabs+Shrimps-69 I SWEAR it was a longer vid. It was definitely about squat lobsters because it was the first time I'd seen them and spurred me to jot them down as a possible critter to keep.

It could just have been the short... maybe I read the comments and that's confused me? ;_; I am easily confused.

And I do get hallucinations, but not like that

It's a big ask from the people who know, though, a huge undertaking of time and effort for no money. And then you get all the flak of people who don't agree on both sides.

!!! Uh oh... I did a little research on them yesterday (very little and very surface skimming) I know they need to bury their bodies in sand, do you think filling holes in the rock with sand would allow them to live in there? They could use the rock and then the sandbed underneath it? IDK, I don't really know what I'm talking about here, lol
I've never heard anything about squat lobsters burrowing in the sand; I always heard they live in crinoids. Could you provide the source you got the information from?
 

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