Is this fish okay?

[stephenxbog]

I lost 2 lionfish already and I’m just a little worried about this guy so I figured I’d check with everyone and see what they think.
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[kevgib67]

@vetteguy53081

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

I lost 2 lionfish already and I’m just a little worried about this guy so I figured I’d check with everyone and see what they think.

That lion is very ill. It has some major gill infection, either protozoans or flukes.

How long ago did the other two lions die?
Have you treated with anything yet?
Any more history?

 

[stephenxbog]

I lost 2 lionfish already and I’m just a little worried about this guy so I figured I’d check with everyone and see what they think.

That lion is very ill. It has some major gill infection, either protozoans or flukes.

How long ago did the other two lions die?
Have you treated with anything yet?
Any more history?

My first one died a couple months ago. And the second that died, never made it home. This guy has been in here about a month now. How do you know his gills are infected?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

My first one died a couple months ago. And the second that died, never made it home. This guy has been in here about a month now. How do you know his gills are infected?

The breathing is wrong and the gills are red and flared.

Is it still eating? If so, I’d say this is gill flukes.

 

[stephenxbog]

I lost 2 lionfish already and I’m just a little worried about this guy so I figured I’d check with everyone and see what they think.

That lion is very ill. It has some major gill infection, either protozoans or flukes.

How long ago did the other two lions die?
Have you treated with anything yet?
Any more history?

I have some coppersafe, and some api general cure. I treated him for a couple weeks when I first got him, he was eating fine and swimming around good, I gave him a freshwater dip as a finale before releasing him into my display tank.

 

[stephenxbog]

My first one died a couple months ago. And the second that died, never made it home. This guy has been in here about a month now. How do you know his gills are infected?

The breathing is wrong and the gills are red and flared.

Is it still eating? If so, I’d say this is gill flukes.

He eats every 2 or 3 days. Missed a meal a couple weeks ago and ate twice the normal amount the next feeding.

 

[stephenxbog]

My first one died a couple months ago. And the second that died, never made it home. This guy has been in here about a month now. How do you know his gills are infected?

The breathing is wrong and the gills are red and flared.

Is it still eating? If so, I’d say this is gill flukes.

Can I use api general cure to treat the whole tank? My stock is a couple different kinds of common snails like Mexican turbos, 1 mandarin, 2 clownfish, 1 blue damsel, 1 chocolate chip starfish, 1 sand sifting starfish, 1 coral banded shrimp, 1 peppermint shrimp, 1 diamond goby, and 1 dwarf zebra lionfish.

 

[vetteguy53081]

I lost 2 lionfish already and I’m just a little worried about this guy so I figured I’d check with everyone and see what they think.

Lion is labor breathing and what is your nitrate level?
Hard to see skin and body with amount of floating debris.

 

[vetteguy53081]

Can I use api general cure to treat the whole tank? My stock is a couple different kinds of common snails like Mexican turbos, 1 mandarin, 2 clownfish, 1 blue damsel, 1 chocolate chip starfish, 1 sand sifting starfish, 1 coral banded shrimp, 1 peppermint shrimp, 1 diamond goby, and 1 dwarf zebra lionfish.

Im surprised it has not swallowed clowns or tried to. I would not enter general cure in a tank with inverts but rather treat in a separate tank and what are you treating, or trying to treat?

 

[stephenxbog]

Can I use api general cure to treat the whole tank? My stock is a couple different kinds of common snails like Mexican turbos, 1 mandarin, 2 clownfish, 1 blue damsel, 1 chocolate chip starfish, 1 sand sifting starfish, 1 coral banded shrimp, 1 peppermint shrimp, 1 diamond goby, and 1 dwarf zebra lionfish.

Im surprised it has not swallowed clowns or tried to. I would not enter general cure in a tank with inverts but rather treat in a separate tank and what are you treating, or trying to treat?

Flukes or protazoans according to the other day

 

[stephenxbog]

Can I use api general cure to treat the whole tank? My stock is a couple different kinds of common snails like Mexican turbos, 1 mandarin, 2 clownfish, 1 blue damsel, 1 chocolate chip starfish, 1 sand sifting starfish, 1 coral banded shrimp, 1 peppermint shrimp, 1 diamond goby, and 1 dwarf zebra lionfish.

Im surprised it has not swallowed clowns or tried to. I would not enter general cure in a tank with inverts but rather treat in a separate tank and what are you treating, or trying to treat?

This lionfish is super chill, and I added him to the tank last. Any time I move rock around I pull him out and wait a couple hours to let the other fish remake their homes before I put him back in.

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

Can I use api general cure to treat the whole tank? My stock is a couple different kinds of common snails like Mexican turbos, 1 mandarin, 2 clownfish, 1 blue damsel, 1 chocolate chip starfish, 1 sand sifting starfish, 1 coral banded shrimp, 1 peppermint shrimp, 1 diamond goby, and 1 dwarf zebra lionfish.

No, General Cure is not safe for invertebrates because it also contains metronidazole. Plain praziquantel is ok, so is Prazipro.

 

[vetteguy53081]

This lionfish is super chill, and I added him to the tank last. Any time I move rock around I pull him out and wait a couple hours to let the other fish remake their homes before I put him back in.

Treat in a separate tank. You can use hyposalinity (1.009) or Coppersafe at 2.20ppm

 

[stephenxbog]

This lionfish is super chill, and I added him to the tank last. Any time I move rock around I pull him out and wait a couple hours to let the other fish remake their homes before I put him back in.

Treat in a separate tank. You can use hyposalinity (1.009) or Coppersafe at 2.20ppm

I don’t have a way to measure coppersafe like that

 

[stephenxbog]

Can I use api general cure to treat the whole tank? My stock is a couple different kinds of common snails like Mexican turbos, 1 mandarin, 2 clownfish, 1 blue damsel, 1 chocolate chip starfish, 1 sand sifting starfish, 1 coral banded shrimp, 1 peppermint shrimp, 1 diamond goby, and 1 dwarf zebra lionfish.

No, General Cure is not safe for invertebrates because it also contains metronidazole. Plain praziquantel is ok, so is Prazipro.

What should I use to treat my display tank?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

What should I use to treat my display tank?

Fritz Prazicleanse (not Paracleanse)

 

[stephenxbog]

What should I use to treat my display tank?

Fritz Prazicleanse (not Paracleanse)

How do I get my quarantine tank to have a ph of 8.1 if there’s no sand or rock?

 

[Jay Hemdal Verified Community Expert]

How do I get my quarantine tank to have a ph of 8.1 if there’s no sand or rock?

For a fish-only hospital tank, any pH above about 7.5 is fine. If the pH drops much below that, you can use pH raising products to carefully adjust it (you do not want to raise the pH too fast). Baking soda can be used. However, the amount to use is not "set in stone", you need to dissolve a small amount of it in some tank water, then add it to the tank in small amounts, testing the pH an hour or so after each addition.

 

[stephenxbog]

How do I get my quarantine tank to have a ph of 8.1 if there’s no sand or rock?

For a fish-only hospital tank, any pH above about 7.5 is fine. If the pH drops much below that, you can use pH raising products to carefully adjust it (you do not want to raise the pH too fast). Baking soda can be used. However, the amount to use is not "set in stone", you need to dissolve a small amount of it in some tank water, then add it to the tank in small amounts, testing the pH an hour or so after each addition.

I used api general cure in a 10 gallon tank for the lionfish, is that okay?