Jeabo, is it worth it?

[Justin84]

So either take a gamble or stick with AC pumps. Hmm well I really want (not need) a DC pump that will handle my current and possibly future needs. I don’t know.. kinda torn. I mean if I try it and have good to great success it would feel like I got lucky and have a ticking time bomb. On the other hand I’m a control freak and I like gadgets! I mean besides the beautiful corals that are out there the simple mechanics of it are just as alluring. So I guess I’ll see how bad I want to make that change. I can implement all the redundant backups to help mitigate any loss just in case but do I need that headache? So for now I think I’m going to wait until after reefapalooza in a couple of weeks and make my decision then. ATM I’m still trying to get my new Apex setup and my aquatic life T5 retro encased in a floating canopy.

 

[Justin84]

BTW 69.7% of people that popped the poll seem to think they are reliable enough! ;)
But the No voters I think make a valid point as to the level of volume in regards to the stress of the volume of water. Thanks for all the feedback so far! It definitely makes it hard to choose though

 

[Reef Breeders]

Wow, this post really blew up!

Our experience has been good with the newer pumps, the QP, DCT, DCS and newer are super reliable. The older blue DC pumps tended to have issues with the motors going out. Same goes for RW, WP, and other older models.

More recent models like the have a much better track record in terms of motor longevity. The key is the new controllers- the power management has been moved from the motor block to the controller, which vastly improves reliability.

If that's not enough, we do have a 12 month warranty on any Jebao/CoralBox products ordered with us or one of our LFS retailers. We service these and stock parts in Wakefield, RI USA :)

 

[ReefWithCare]

So either take a gamble or stick with AC pumps. Hmm well I really want (not need) a DC pump that will handle my current and possibly future needs. I don’t know.. kinda torn. I mean if I try it and have good to great success it would feel like I got lucky and have a ticking time bomb. On the other hand I’m a control freak and I like gadgets! I mean besides the beautiful corals that are out there the simple mechanics of it are just as alluring. So I guess I’ll see how bad I want to make that change. I can implement all the redundant backups to help mitigate any loss just in case but do I need that headache? So for now I think I’m going to wait until after reefapalooza in a couple of weeks and make my decision then. ATM I’m still trying to get my new Apex setup and my aquatic life T5 retro encased in a floating canopy.

Go with an AC pump and it will last forever. Similar how you are going ole school with your T-5. The old tech just works :).

 

[ksed]

Also keep in mind of how many Jebao pumps are sold compared to other brands.

 

[ca1ore]

I see one or two comments from people running these things 3-5 years; but most 6, 12, 18 months. That's not dependable, that's break-in period :D

 

[ReefWithCare]

I see one or two comments from people running these things 3-5 years; but most 6, 12, 18 months. That's not dependable, that's break-in period :D

Compared to AC Pumps that folks here have been running for over 10 years without an issue ;).

Did I mention that my shiny new DCP fried as soon as I plug it into my outlet? It let out a huge spark and the controller died instantly. The pump worked just fine after I plugged it into a replacement controller (thanks Amazon for being so quick about it). Luckily it's just a water changing station pump. And yes I ordered it from Jebao on Amazon.

 

[dz6t]

Also keep in mind of how many Jebao pumps are sold compared to other brands.

Yes, very true.
If you consider asia market as well, there is no comparison. Several other brands are just rebadge Jebao. Say, AquaMedic?

 

[Redleg]

I have two DCT-8000 running on my 125 gal since July 10, 2015 .....almost 3 years without a hitch. (knock on wood)
They are quiet and have good flow, ...I run mine at 80% most of the time. I use the two return pumps, that way if one fails, the system is not shut down.

Didn't see any replies about the Hayward pool pump....I would think that would be a good choice if you have to pump a lot of water from downstairs pump room....any thoughts?....digital control, variable speed and lots of pump power and not that bad of price...?

I would be concerned about the pool pump being reef safe. A couple rusting screws in a 8000 gallon pool is no big deal.

 

[ca1ore]

Also keep in mind of how many Jebao pumps are sold compared to other brands.

Yes, of course. Must always consider that brands that have a larger installed base will have a larger number of failures; also that people are generally more likely to complain than they are to praise. I'll be more than happy to switch to a DC pump once they have enough time in the market to show comparable reliability to something like an Iwaki.

 

[dz6t]

I use many Jebao DC return pumps since they become available. I have zero failure rate for return pumps but have several failure for Jebao PP/RW series. Not the older generation WP or newer SW.

 

[dz6t]

I am using Coralbx QP series now and pretty happy with them.

 

[reeferfoxx]

I haven't had any issues with any return pumps that I purchased. I purchased two DC pumps, one for the tank and one as a back up. After two years, I decided they one I had was too powerful for my nano. So, I went down in size and it's been running for 4 months without issues. I now have 2 pumps in reserve lol..

For wave pumps, I did have issues with the RW series. Since going to the PP series pumps, I haven't experienced any issues. Pumps have been running nearly 2 years without issues.

 

[Luno]

I'm not sure how the US does it, here in Australia we have pretty standard consumer laws. Meaning things don't have to have a warranty. You have what's considered an expectation of reasonable use. "the goods must be safe, lasting, have no faults, look acceptable and do all the things someone would normally expect them to do".

Now the general consensus for electronics is 1 year, but an argument can be made depending on the electronic for example you expect a television to work for more than one year. Either way if there is a dispute between customer and seller an ombudsman or lawyers can be brought in to resolve. Also if a products fails within an expected use the seller or company may be liable for damages, losses physical, financial or even just your own time.

I have used my own countries consumer laws many times and even recruited an ombudsman and every time have been refunded costs of electronics and in some cases extra for losses.

So if the USA consumer laws are the same or similar to here (actually asking I have no idea but I would assume they are similar) why would anyone be concerned buying electronics?

 

[GWHouston]

I have two jebao dc 10000. One runs the sump at 45% and the other is in the basement and delivers my water mix for changes. It runs at 30% for the mix prep and at 100% to push it to the DT. I’m very happy with them so far.

 

[ca1ore]

BTW 69.7% of people that popped the poll seem to think they are reliable enough! ;)

Lots of people think lots of things ..... doesn't make them true :D or false.

 

[looneywun]

i love jebao products. always been good to me so id say worth it.

 

[Z3speed4me]

Have a PP-4 in my cube for 2 years now... two CP-40's in my 75 for over a year now and only cleaned them once.
Return is a DCS 6000... going to buy a DCP10000 for the new tank I am working on.

Knock on wood, they have been pretty reliable for the price. Especially with the gyre's hooked up to T1's and a battery backup now.

 

[reeferfoxx]

Especially with the gyre's hooked up to T1's and a battery backup now.

I will make one gripe about the coral box controllers for the jebao pumps. I had one crap out on me and because it was past warranty, their customer service from China, in their best English, wanted me to ship the unit back to China for repair and then pay to ship it back to myself. For that, I'll never buy another coral box product.

 

[ksed]

I don’t think they will ever outlive an Iwaki. Lol
The question is would you be happy with a pump service of 5,10 or so years? Ultimately the consumer will dictate that.

Yes, of course. Must always consider that brands that have a larger installed base will have a larger number of failures; also that people are generally more likely to complain than they are to praise. I'll be more than happy to switch to a DC pump once they have enough time in the market to show comparable reliability to something like an Iwaki.