Kole tang in quarantine

jbow50 · Nov 12, 2016

Hi all,
I have a kole tang in quarantine and im trying different types of foods. He's been in there for almost 2 weeks and he has recently gotten sores on his lips that are really red and swollen. Also white spots on his fins and body around his head ive had copper and a salinity of 1.019 for the entirety of the quarantine. I assumed it wasn't ick but maybe flukes? Any help is appreciated.

ehsheridan110 · Nov 12, 2016

Do you have pictures?

ehsheridan110 · Nov 12, 2016

And what is the copper level in the tank?

jbow50 · Nov 12, 2016

I tried to take pictures but he insist on hiding maybe tomorrow when he comes out

jbow50 · Nov 12, 2016

ehsheridan110 said:
And what is the copper level in the tank?

Is 2ppm too high? Ive read it could be on the hogh side but i wanted to be sure to kill crypto/velvet

4FordFamily · Nov 12, 2016

jbow50 said:
Is 2ppm too high? Ive read it could be on the hogh side but i wanted to be sure to kill crypto/velvet

Depends on the type of copper. For chelated copper such as coppersafe and copper power this is fine. For cupramine you would be poisoning the fish quickly.

I am no help on a diagnosis without photos but it could be flukes and an infection it sounds like. We will need some pics to be sure.

@Humblefish @melypr1985

jbow50 · Nov 12, 2016

This is copper power I'm using. I'll try to get pics tomorrow.

melypr1985 · Nov 12, 2016

jbow50 said:
This is copper power I'm using. I'll try to get pics tomorrow.

With Copper Power 2ppm is fine. I don't think this is flukes, but a picture is definitely needed. I would try to get the picture up as quick as possible too. He might not have a lot of time since it sounds like an infection is setting in pretty quickly.

jbow50 · Nov 12, 2016

Thanks i will try my best just noticed it really bad in the past 24 hours at least his lips that is.

Humblefish · Nov 13, 2016

"Red and swollen sores" sounds very much like an infection, unless the fish has been physically damaged/injured in some way.

You will probably need a broad spectrum antibiotic, such as Kanaplex or Furan-2, to deal with this. Another good option would be Nitrofuracin Green Powder: http://store.nationalfishpharm.com/Nitrofuracin-Green-59584.Item.html

jbow50 · Nov 13, 2016

Best pictures i could get he's still a squirrelly fella.

jbow50 · Nov 13, 2016

At first i thought oodenium because of him breathing rapidly

Humblefish · Nov 13, 2016

I think I would add either Kanaplex or Furan-2 to the mix. Just be sure to increase oxygen to compensate for mixing meds.

melypr1985 · Nov 13, 2016

Humblefish said:
I think I would add either Kanaplex or Furan-2 to the mix. Just be sure to increase oxygen to compensate for mixing meds.

+1

Paul B · Nov 13, 2016

I believe the stress of quarantine gave this to him. But what do I know? :eek:

jbow50 · Nov 13, 2016

I know i now feel horrible. I learned kole tangs are very uninterested in eat of the clip too. Hes been a picky eater since day one. I hate to see something bad happen to him.

melypr1985 · Nov 13, 2016

jbow50 said:
I know i now feel horrible. I learned kole tangs are very uninterested in eat of the clip too. Hes been a picky eater since day one. I hate to see something bad happen to him.

QT didn't cause this infection. That's ridiculous at best. Infections are caused by bacteria invading an opening in the skin and a low immune system. This was probably secondary to another condition such as ick, flukes or a simple injury to the mouth.

You can help him get used to eating nori by rubber banding it to a small rock and placing it in there. It helped mine get used to it and now he eats from a clip like a big boy.