Livid right now...

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I'd still talk to an attorney. Do you have one that's a friend that could help you out?


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12g Nanoreef. Zooanthids, Ricordia, Star Polyps, Acans and two clownfish. CF Lighting, 75% actinic blue, 25% 10,000k white.
 
I had issues in my old house. We called him Land Lord of the Rings. He was so cheap he installed used 70s trailer carpet in the house. Oh no! I searched the web for laws in my state and used them to my advantage. Here. See what you can do to cook his children

http://www.dca.state.ga.us/housing/housingdevelopment/programs/


"Live like tomorrow already happened. Yesterday is only 3 days ahead. Today will be here soon."
 
I guess where I'm from that means something different than the literal definition.


"Live like tomorrow already happened. Yesterday is only 3 days ahead. Today will be here soon."
 
Hey man I dunno how it is in atl but I own my own house and still took 3 days for new install when mine went out here in fl. So dont just blame landlord all ac guys are slammed right now.
Luckily I had a chiller sitting in garage for safe keeps BUT could only run one tank. The fowlr made it fine but was 87 degrees for 3 days.
 
I would get a wall unit to have on hand. I rent and my guys are super nice. The guy that owns the house owns 22,000 houses. I'm really nice to the maintenance guys and in return they come to my house first chance. And when my ac went out they still took 48 hrs to fix it.


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Agree completely.

I also agree. You could have done something (or more) to save your corals or at least mitigate your losses. Hiring an attorney will be throwing good money after bad; you won't get anywhere. Put the money toward replacing what you lost and more importantly, some type of back up system to prevent future losses.
 
If you don't have a chiller in the event of an emergency, a redneck chiller will work. Ugly as a homemade mud fence, but it works. I've saved a couple of my big tanks with nothing more than a big styrofoam beer cooler, 50' of vinyl tubing, a mj900, comforters/sleeping bags, and some ice and salt. You wouldn't want it as a permanent fixture, but desperate times sometimes call for desperate measures.
 
What's your volume of water? I've got a chiller that will cool water 30 degrees up to 240G...450G it will only cool 450G..this is a 1/2HP chiller.
 
How does it work?

connect the vinyl tubing to the pump, place pump in sump/tank, coil excess tubing into cooler, tubing return goes back to tank/sump, fill cooler with ice/salt/bit of h20, turn on pump. watch as the temps go down! The tank water flows through the tubing in the ice cold water, and through conduction cools in the process, thereby re-entering the tank at a lower temp. not an exact science and no digital controls, but can definitely be worth the time/effort to save your tank!
 
(note: for some strange reason my "enter" key will not allow downward spacing, hence the one long paragraph, i appologize in advance) As both a long-time hobbyist and businessman in this industry, I most certainly feel for your losses. Please let me first say that I mean absolutely no disrespect in this statement, however I feel your anger is very much misdirected. Given the fragile and unpredictable nature of these animals (for which we consciously chose to care for) it is our inherent responsibility as hobbyists to have various contingencies in place for most any peril. By that I mean not only the situation you find yourself in now, but for the loss of power, a seized main pump, a broken heater, main tank break/flooding, etc. I must ask, what would you have done had your electricity been blacked out for a few days? This happened to me some years ago. (true story) I went and got a power inverter to hook up to my car and ran my engine all night so I could at least run my main pump. I then went and purchased a $500 generator soon thereafter, of which was quite useful the following year when we had a one day blackout. You unfortunately placed yourself at risk twice: First when you decided a chiller purchase was not justified, and second, when you didn't take measures immediately after hearing that your air conditioner went out. I am NOT judging you, trust me! I myself just recently bought my first chiller, about 10 years into this hobby, so I know exactly what you did.....but the main difference here is that you are not identifying where the true failure occured and hence what needs corrective action. I am sure you've found out by now that property management is under no such law or responsibility to ensure you continuous and uninterrupted air-conditioning, anymore than they are responsible for uninterupted electric power (does this make sense now? Yes?) Furthermore, the high dollar value of your corals are not only irrelevent to property management (do they owe you extra security should you suddenly decide to be a diamond jeweler?), but only underscores what my main message here is: Have a contingency plan for almost everything! (or at least a working understanding of what COULD go wrong and what you might do if found in those scenarios) Good luck in your recovery and again I mean absolutely no disrespect or negativity towards you. I wish we lived closer so that I could put money where my mouth is and help you in a more direct approach. Good luck my friend! Kevin T. Adams
 
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I gotta agree with Kevin, once your AC went out it was time to get proactive, not sit around and wait for an AC repair man.

The loss sucks but most times you can't rely on anyone but yourself, if I had a problem I would take it upon myself to make sure my livestock is safe...
 
(note: for some strange reason my "enter" key will not allow downward spacing, hence the one long paragraph,

That happens to me when I use internet explorer with windows 8.. The eneter key does not work with in the editor.

Anyway back to topic.

Do you have a lease?
I doubt there is anything you really can do..
There are steps you could have taken to help. Some have been listed.
Are the corals dead? Bleached corals can come back.
There are steps you can take to prevent this in the future but nothing is full proof.. A long power outage can take out most tanks..
 
They came to fix it same day I called. I was told I had to wait for the compressor to cool down. Which they could have sped up by running water of it. Advice from a professional with 17yrs experience. Not only that. The unit should have been properly fixed the first time instead of repeated monthly repairs all last summer. When I signed a new lease I was promised a new unit. Never happened. I even asked and got the run around about it. Because of the lease I can not call a professional to repair it. Because of the lease I can not have a window unit. I will be purchasing a chiller that will sit on standby for the next time. I will contact a lawyer and explain the situation and see if I can get them for neglect. I have a couple of friends that are lawyers. This isn't the only problem I've had with these people. Mailboxes vandalized, Gates to the property plowed down by cars frequently. These people will even hang up on you for trying to file a complaint. I've been hung up on for checking the status on repair requests. When the lease is up I'm gone. 4 years of my money is enough for any neglectful landlord. I've even complained to their corporate office and same result.

Contingency is something I'm quite familiar with. I deal with datacenters for a living.

Not only that there are laws that state they have to give 24hr notice to enter my apt. They don't. I've had them try to walk in on me while home instead of even trying to knock. Done with this place. Done with Georgia.
 
the conditions of your lease do sound pretty ridiculous man, that's a total bummer.

I hope your corals come back...
 
Apparently its also a violation of state law after reading this.

http://www.dca.ga.gov/housing/housingdevelopment/programs/downloads/Georgia_Landlord_Tenant_Handbook.pdf#Repairs


Georgia courts have held that when a landlord fails to respond to repair requests after a reasonable time, the tenant can have the required repair performed by a competent repair person at a reasonable cost and deduct the cost from future rent. In determining what is a reasonable

time for the landlord to make the repair, consider the seriousness of the condition and the nature of the repair. It is a good idea

to notify the landlord in writing that you plan to use the "repair and deduct" remedy before you arrange for the repair to be done. Written notice is the best

notice. The tenant should keep copies of all repair receipts and ask the repair person for a statement detailing the work performed and the problem corrected. Keep copies of this information. You may subtract these repair costs from your next month’s rent by sending copies of the repair receipts along with the remaining amount of rent due to your landlord. When using “repair and deduct” the tenant must be careful and spend only a reasonable amount on the repair. The tenant should not improve the property, only repair the defect. The tenant should use only qualified and licensed workers to make the repairs.If you do not feel that "repair and deduct" will address your issue, you should consider contacting an attorney.


 
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^^^ pretty much what I went through with my last renting experience. Once you flash them the laws they either do what you ask or suffer the consequences.


"Live like tomorrow already happened. Yesterday is only 3 days ahead. Today will be here soon."
 
Guess what happened an hour ago. *bites tongue* I had to call maintenance again. Resolution? More freon. I made it very clear tonight is just get it going and fix it in the morning. I brought up "Repair and Deduct" and told them next time I bypass and send you letter telling you I will call a professional at your expense. And after a year of the same thing and same fix I don't think neglect on their part will be too hard to prove. EPA will also be notified. I'm not pleased with that stuff being released into the air. There are enough problems with the environment.
 
So its considered an emergency when my AC is cooling to just bust into my apt when I'm not home without 24 hr notice or my permission? I don't think so. This too will be handed over to the magistrate's office.
 

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