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Back in July I started posting this build thread in my local club's forum to get some feedback about the process. I'm going to copy and paste the initial posts and all of my updates since then here so I can get even more from a larger community. Most of what I posted is still true but some things like building the display tank have changed. I'm going slowly and won't even have the display for a year or two but I am enjoying building the room. Also, since I made my initial plan the room has become my office as well so it serves a double duty. Let me know what you think!

After my recent tank crash, I decided that I'm going to start building the fish room. This is part of the plan that got me to agree to buy our current house 2 years ago, and my wife has agreed that I can start tearing it up. Fair warning, this is going to be a long post with lots of pictures. I'm only certain of a little bit of the plan, and would love input and help on how to configure everything. I'm also going to share the progress on my home theater build, since the tank is going to be sitting in-wall in that room as well. Please let me know if the HT stuff strays too far off topic and I'll keep it to just the fish stuff.

Anyway, 2 years ago we purchased this 5 bedroom split level house where one of the bedrooms is right next to the living room and not needed. Here's the living room on move in day:

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And here is the bedroom:

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The plan was to turn the living room into a home theater with a large in-wall tank and fish room to come later. I can do the home theater stuff with no problem since I've installed them as a career for the past 12 years. It started out pretty ugly in the living room, hiding wires meant having to cut open the whole ceiling due to joist direction, so we spent a few months with speaker wire looking like this:

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Finally, I was able to purchase an 11 channel Dolby Atmos receiver along with speakers # 8-11 and decided to hide some wires. I also decided to get rid of the front sconces and add 6 recessed lights with Philips Hue bulbs. Here's what I had to do to the ceiling.

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I've since closed up the ceiling, painted the walls dark blue, made the doorway smaller, and built a sliding door (which is what killed everything in the nano due to the alcohol based finish). I'm going to scrape off of the ceiling texture, patch up the areas I cut, and redo with a newer texture.

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The reason I shared this is to show that I'm planning on adding roughly an 8' tank in wall on the right side of the room, here. Beside the tank, I will be adding a couple rows of theater seating, a stacked stone looking wall, and a TV that is 20" bigger than the 55" you see here along with some sound treatments later. I do have a 4k TV with 11 channel Atmos sound, which is nice.

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On to the fish room. I haven't had a tank larger than my 29g since 2012, when I had a 120 that ruptured. I plan on going a bit overboard as far as what to put in the room, but don't have the money to just go buy everything so I'm going to take my time and also do a lot of DIY. I started by ripping out the drywall and found this on the wall that is shared with a bathroom.

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Those are electrical wires just spliced together without grounds and taped to the studs behind the drywall. We also found that the entire downstairs area was running off of a single circuit breaker. I didn't think it would be ideal to run a fish room and a home theater system off of one breaker so we found another one that had nothing more than 3 practically unused outlets and moved the fish room to that. We also re-plumbed the shower area to be the new home for our washer and dryer, getting them out of the garage and giving more space for tools in the workshop. While we were at it, we moved the power outlet on that wall much higher and added an AFCI/GFCI since it's the first one in the room. This wall will house my RO/DI system and a couple storage tanks, maybe also the QT.

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This is the tank wall from before all of the drywall was out. One thing I had to make sure was that the electrical lines were gone. I feel like I should avoid having power outlets directly below the tank if possible. I am moving the outlet on that wall up high to the closet area on the left side. The idea right now is to have the upper left side as the home for all power bricks, surge protectors, controller parts, etc. We will also have a contractor cut the opening in the wall and add a header. I can do lots of things on my own but since it's a load bearing wall I want to be extra careful. The opening will start just past the double stud on the left and end just before the closet. That will get me a little over 8'. I also plan on replacing the door to the room and having it open into the hallway to make room. The tank will be fully visible from both the living room and fish room, so I've thought of a couple things I'd like to see:

1. the overflow/drilled area will go on the side of the tank by the closet. Right now I honestly don't know if I want the sump beneath the tank or in the closet. I want a large refugium and I've always loved just sitting and watching all of the activity in them. I may want a remote one up a little higher.

2. I can use the bulkhead to hang lights and hide the area behind the tank when in the living room. My idea is to get a large projector screen and mount it backwards right behind the bulkhead. It will be motorized with a trigger that I can hopefully rig to run off of a controller that interfaces with Alexa. When the screen drops it'll be the black side that acts as a background. I have a possibility of obtaining a screen that is 8' long from work that is a useless old demo model for not much money. I've wired the outlet for this in the ceiling just in case. I've also wired 4 power outlets in the area of the bulkhead without any HVAC for LED lights. Not sure on which ones yet.

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Here's the room as of today. I changed the old '70s light out for recessed lights that will eventually also be Hue lights because I've become addicted to voice controlled colored lights. Above the closet I'm wiring 2 outlets and some HDMI. This is to run 2 monitors. One will be my Apex Fusion readout and the other is the 2nd HDMI output from the surround sound receiver. That model has dual out so I can see what's on the living room screen, it'll be nice to watch a little something in the fish room. Also I plan on adding a bathroom fan to vent moisture outside if the humidity reaches a point that is too high. The nice thing with the room is that it's an outside corner so venting won't be difficult. I will use this to run a fresh air inlet to the skimmer as well. I've found that it really helps the low pH in the nano tank but it'll be way less ugly. There are 2 closet areas, the left is going to hold any power equipment, then maybe a sump, maybe a fuge, who knows. The right will be a rack with smaller tanks so I can do other things. I've always been fascinated by breeding clowns, maybe a small breeding area. I don't know if I want it to have it's own sump or plumb into the one for the DT. In the corner just outside the closet I want a frag tank or two. To the right of that I'll build a desk to house a small PC and anything else I may want to do.

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If you keep going around the room you get to the corner with the window then back to the wall adjacent to the bathroom. Here it is before I ripped everything out.

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I want a 4' QT tank somewhere around here and my water storage. The pipes are exposed for the sink on the other side, shown in an earlier pic, so I can use them for RODI. I think I'll replace the ugly old vanity with a laundry sink so I can clean tank items in there. Also, there will not be carpet. I'm coating the floor with Rust Oleum rocksolid like I did in my garage. I hate getting saltwater in the carpet. I plan on adding a taller threshold to the hall carpet to keep any spills out. So here are my early ideas, I'm looking for any help I can get with planning this from people who have been there or see anything I'm missing.

1. The DT will be approximately 300 gallons, probably 7-8 feet long and going back to the back of the bulkhead.

2. The closet will house a tank rack for breeding or anything else I'd like to do, and next to that will be a frag area. Do I do a large shared sump with remote fuge or keep both under the DT?

3. I want to automate as much as possible. I love my Apex and won't go back. This includes the topoff from the storage to multiple areas. I also plan on having dosing pumps setup in the closet.

4. I want to build every single tank, rack and stand. I have a large workshop in the garage:

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Everything you see started out as plywood sheets. I've built many things, just never out of acrylic. Understand that this isn't an all at once build, I'd like to start by building some of the smaller stuff to learn and practice, then finish with the DT after I'm more experienced, and hopefully with the help of people who have more than I do. Ambitious? Yes. Stupid? Probably. It's going to take a while to get the skill and money necessary to build it all, so that's why I'm starting with a frag tank and expanding from there. That's why I'm asking for help. What would you do differently? Are there any ideas that would help? This has been a dream for a long time so I'm willing to put in the time and work to make it all come together. Please let me know if there's anything that may be better and I'll update as progress continues.
 
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I finished the laundry room I was building next to the fish room so I can continue on. I grabbed a bunch of things yesterday and was excited to get started with the last of the wiring and beginning insulation, then I looked at the floor and saw dark spots. It's raining and the water is seeping in. It appears to mostly be where the old furring strips were. The builder just drove nails right through the strips and into the cinder block wall. The strips were rotted out at the bottom and all of the nails were rusted out, so I have a feeling they were absorbing the water since it was pretty slow. I patched the holes and cracks with concrete patch and will coat it with Drylok when it cures and it's not raining. I can keep going though, in the next few weeks I'll be able to get insulation in on the half of the wall above ground, add the bathroom fan with humidity sensor, coat the floor, and put up drywall once I'm confident the water issue is solved. Once it looks like a real room again I'll put together a frag system to get me by until I can work on bigger tanks.
 
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I got a few more things done since the rain dried out. I got the Drylok on the cinder block wall so it went from this:



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I also added the air inlet for the skimmer. I found an outdoor electrical box with a removable bottom piece for a cord that works perfectly.



I used epoxy to add a small piece of screen from an old screen door that will be thrown away to keep bugs out. The box has an insert for round items, so I cut it out to fit a 1" PVC pipe that I'll use as a conduit to run whichever size flexible tube I'll need for a skimmer.





Here is the PVC coming down into the room. I'm going to cap it off for now but it's ready to add flex tubing when the tank is up and running.



Today I'm doing the metallic floor coating, so the room should look very different when it's done.
 
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Another month's gone by and it feels like I've been working on the drywall forever. I finally finished sanding yesterday and painted the room. I warned my wife that she'll think I'm crazy but I decided to go with black for the walls. It'll act like a black background on any tank in the room and make the coral pop a little more. I got 2 coats of black on the walls and am ready to start on the ceiling texture. After that it's door and closet trim along with baseboard. With that phase 1 will be done and I'll be ready to build the desk for the room and put my nano in there.



Here's the current state. It'll look much better when I clean the floor.

 
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The sound was very live in there so I used some extra insulation and speaker cloth to make 2 sound absorbing panels and hung them from the ceiling. It's not great but it helps.

 
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I decided to move the nano into the room and put it on the left side of the closet. It's a JBJ rimless 30 gallon tank and it sits on a little plastic membrane, and that membrane peeled off a bit before we were going to pick it up. My brother noticed a drip from the front right corner, and of course the membrane's the only thing that has been keeping a leak at bay for a while now. So instead of rebuilding it tonight I had to empty all of the rock into buckets (with my only 2 corals in one) and move the completely empty tank onto sawhorses to dry out. I'm going to completely clean it out and reseal it, then rebuild it as a barebottom with less rock this time. I've found that the sand has been a pain since it keeps all sorts of detritus and mainly shifts to one side.
 
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I built the first two pieces of my desk bottom today. I had already built the top out of MDF over the past couple weeks. I went ahead and took them down to the fish room to see how they fit in there. When complete, everything will be blue except the desktop and have doors/drawers as well. I'm also building a built in board with holes for frag plugs on drawer slides. It'll look like a drawer but one side will have the board and the other will have a bucket for the coral waiting to be fragged.



We originally had the desk designed to be 4' wide but my brother talked me into going 6. Now I see that I can add a 2nd cabinet on each side and still have plenty of space for my legs. I'm going to build something in that small space to the left, I just don't know what. Maybe more storage, maybe a rack for growing phyto and rotifers.

It's been a good week for that room, too bad my vacation's over and I have to work again tomorrow.
 
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I moved the RODI over tonight and took advantage of the location of the washer plumbing box on the other side of the wall.

Update for R2R: I'll likely be adding 3 stages from BRS for an extra carbon block and more DI resin and I'll move it to the opposite side of the wall inside of my laundry cabinet.







 
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I spent the weekend adding baseboard and closet door trim so it looks like a real room again. I also leak tested the nano after resealing and all is well, so I got everything cleaned up and started over. This means I'll have a tank that isn't just stringing along after a crash for the first time in almost half a year. I removed all of the sand and some of the rock and went with a simple cove aquascape. Since there are no living creatures I decided to rig the RO line over using a bucket lid and a zip tie and I'm just dumping salt in as it fills. I had to throw a pump and heater in the front since the water isn't high enough to go through the back yet.

 
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I've been spending what time I can on the bottom of the desk. It's going to be blue with black interior, and the bottom cabinets will each have a slide out tray for fragging. The right side will have a bucket to put items ready to frag into and the left will be a tray with holes for frag plugs with a drip tray beneath it.

Here are the cabinets with one painted on the inside.



The right side bucket tray:



The layout for the frag tray, followed by a couple more steps:







I used the router table to cut slots in side pieces to fit the drip tray:







The trays are 1/2" MDF but they will be sealed and painted before installation so water shouldn't hurt them. I have some Rust Oleum never wet I've never tried and I'm thinking of spraying them with that too. Hopefully I'll have the bottom half of the desk in by Monday.
 
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I finally have the bottom half of the desk in the room. After that was setup I brought the Apex back online and my nano is back up and running fully. I even got lucky with my Vortech mp10, it has been blinking red/green for months and not working but I found an old LED strip in my spare parts box with a power supply that matches the pump and it now works. My plan is to use it as my office when I work from home so I can move my monitor and laptop docking station in there whenever. I'm going to plan out the top part of the desk cabinet, paint the windowsill/add blinds, and add the TV/monitors to the area above the closet next. I'll also need another office chair.

Here's the view from desk to nano:



And the nano FTS. All of the coraline algae on the back died when it was dry for resealing. I kept the live rock in buckets with water from the tank before the teardown running with pumps for circulation. I don't know how long I should wait before adding a fish or frag.



Finally, the desk with the fragging trays out. I'm a lefty so I work from right to left. The right has a bucket for what I am about to cut or frags I just brought home ready to dip. The left is for frag plugs with a drip tray. I'm going to build doors so it will be hidden.



After almost 6 months of tearing it down and building it back up it's finally a usable room again. From this point I'll keep adding until I'm ready for the big tank some time in the next year or two.
 
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Today was the day it became a working tank again. I went over to Modern and they had an interesting pair of clowns for sale, a snowflake ocellaris and an onyx percula. They just put them together recently and both look great. I added them with 2 turbos. No frags yet.

They've each taken sides of the tank for now. The snowflake is in the back left corner and the onyx is out front on the right half. R2R Update: this was in November. The onyx jumped out in the middle of the night a couple weeks in. RIP, onyx.

 
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It's been almost a month and the room's mostly the same but I did add some techy stuff today. First, the bad news. It looks like my perc died some time overnight last night. I haven't seen him all day and even moved the rocks around during feeding. The snowflake has been chasing him around a lot but I thought they were just establishing dominance. Maybe she took it too far. The strange thing is that I can't find a body and there are no scavengers in the tank. Just the snowflake and 2 turbos. Both fish seemed in great health last night and ate very well.

Anyway, on to the room. It's currently being used to store the kids' board games with the tree up, but I added a new laptop and 2 monitors. One is for the Apex Fusion page and the other is for other things like videos. I was originally going to download a bunch of beautiful coral macro pictures to play as my wallpaper in slideshow mode, but then I got a different idea. I went into Photobucket and downloaded almost every tank pic that I've uploaded for over a decade. I put in everything including decisions I wish I had back. It's a fun way to remember the journey since I started in the hobby. The desk is still less than halfway done, the upper section has been modeled in Sketchup and I need to build it. Eventually it will house the laptop up high, more storage, and a coral band saw that will slide out on a tray like the ones on the bottom. The top area all the way across will be open and show things that I want to display.

 
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R2R Update: this was fun...I had to rip up the whole floor and redo it.
So there's been a setback. There was cracking in the floor that I had patched, and the thought was that the rust oleum floor coating wasn't adhering to the patch. I found out that this wasn't the case. It turns out that the self leveling concrete didn't adhere to the original concrete floor...like at all. I'm going to disassemble everything and rip up the floor. I have 2 more boxes of floor coating ready to go. At least this happened now when the only tank I have is a 29. I really like my aquascape though, I think I'll get some epoxy putty to lock it in place before I move it for the floor redo.

 
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I just put the room back together this afternoon and couldn't get my aquascape back to what it was, but I still like it. I'll let it run with just water for a day or two just to make sure everything stabilizes a bit. During the breakdown I found the body of the missing clown, it had jumped and I couldn't see it until I removed the Apex wiring from the floor corner. I'm going to get another one to go with the snowflake, just not quite yet.
 
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R2R Update: This is as of 2/9/19 so anything I post after is in real time.
It's been a month and the room's coming along. I built most of the top section of the desk. It'll be used both for storage and work. I've only built the first of 4 cabinet doors and will wait to paint them and my shelves until it's warmer and I can use my sprayer. I also added a towel ring next to the tank so I can clean up small spills easily.



I created a quick spreadsheet for my left monitor as a way to quickly check my most recent water change and results for Ca, Alk and Mg. The nice part is that I added conditional formatting so that as the days go by on my WC and tests the dates go from green to yellow to red. Same thing with my test results, I setup ranges for them that are color coded.



The tank's going well too. I have a pair of ocellaris (1 snowflake) that have bonded and go everywhere together. There is also a red firefish, brittle star and 3 frags. I'm trying to accumulate more frags and need to add a cleanup crew.
 
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Not as fun as the other things I've been doing in here, but the ceiling on the living room side of the wall is finally trench free! I scraped, patched and re-textured it. The wire coming down is for a wireless access point we're putting in later. Next up in here is cleaning the wall and putting on one final coat of paint, then building a wooden faux stacked stone wall behind the TV.

 

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