My DSUNY LED review (1 year) & 2015 failure

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  1. Russ265

    Russ265 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    I rarely do the "learning-lesson" thing, but i figured I'd share a failure with you...

    So back in may, i purchased 4x 32" panels for my 7ft long 265 gallon reef tank.

    I just spent 3500 on the marineland tank and stand. 1500 on my chiller. Another $1000 on rock and sand. $600 for this dolphin pump, $500 for the fuge, add plumbing, all new test kits, and everything else... and i dropped a chunk on getting my tank up and rolling.

    The only piece i really didnt want to drop a ton of cash on are lights. especially when i see US companies rebranding chinese LEDs and upcharging 50-100%. (i wont mention them)

    I didnt want crap either. So after searching for reviews, looking on youtube, and everything else. I thought the most bang for my buck were some DSUNY turing series lights with a programmable controller.

    For a mere $900 shipped, i received my babies and chucked them in my canopy. They use the 3w bridgelux lights and are spaced a little further than what I'd like with 45 diodes per 32" panel. I set them up lengthwise 2x2.

    the programmable controller panel was cool and seemed to work out just fine. lightning was cheesey. clouds just dimmed the lights 20%.

    k...but they ramp blues, whites, and actinics during however i wanted. I didnt need a controller like my 220 MH/T5 setup with an all or nothing approach.

    For the first 30 days everything seemed fine. no issues.

    60 day mark i noticed that when a programmed point was hit, sometimes all the lights would go 100% until the next programmed marker. I would come home to some toasty corals. This happened 3x the 2nd month in.

    on the 3rd month 2 channels from panel 4 died. only the blues and actinics worked.

    i contacted DSUNY and they offered to replace the panel for 1/2 off. at $120.

    Thinking this might be a fluke panel, i coughed it up and replaced the panel.

    30 days later panel 2 went 100% on and doesnt respond to the controller. all or nothing.

    again... contacted DSUNY. offered a newer panel at $125. at this point this is becoming a joke. also i was fighting a dino outbreak so i just let the panel go 8 hours on. then off on a timer.

    fast forward another 60 days. Panel 4 that was replaced completely died. no all on, no nothing. just dead.

    30 days later. panel 1 starts flickering white channels. (yup... on it's way out)

    lets keep going til now....

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    panel 1 now has 2 burned out channels
    panel 2 is still 100% all or nothing
    panel 3 works as intended
    panel 4 is toast

    which lends me to advise you of this.

    these are worse than a chinese black box. and a heftier premium for them.

    some other interesting notes about these lights....
    Each panel has a 90w driver.... not even a 120 like the old style black boxes.
    The heats sinks are not enough without a fan. (They have none)
    Overall I give these lights a 4/5 stars for terribleness.
     
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    Oh man what a nightmare!
    When I was studying led fixtures it was hard!
    I have a grudge over mass produced chips in fixtures that can not possibly handle the heat and load.
    I know where you are coming from as control of led fixtures is key.
     
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    My issue were the rave reviews that were obviously bunk. I ignored some of the amazon ones as possibly "a bad batch". But hey... If all the lights are dying out before the 1 year mark... you can be assured you have junk :)
     
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    True, I am a firm believer in "you get what you pay for"
    This is why I do not by reman parts for my drag car lol
     
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    I was thinking about getting those LED but my gut said not too. I am glad that I listened to my gut this time. Thank you for sharing your experience, so other will not make the same mistake I am having a good experience with my current orbit marine lights. if my lights die and when I upgrade I will probably go with the Orbit Marine Pro
     
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    dear sir. that is why i am offering this piece up. If this many panels are failing before a year... we got a crappy product. and i hate taking a dump on any distributor or company.

    this is one of the few... you can see some real trash getting promoted.

    hope it saves others the time and issues i had with them.
     
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    oh man. dont get me started about drag racing.

    needless to say. i have racing on my record and always took my old car to the strip back in the day.

    after getting busted for street racing, i now drive my lowly 2014 buick lacrosse and lallygag to work. ahhhh the things you do when you know you have a racing problem.

    some wife coercing helped me understand my racing problem :)
     
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    You know what I hate about drag racing...
    Being covered in snow

    I went with Orphek for a reason ;)
     
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    We bought those lights last year - they started burning - yes burning inside the case.. It took all kinds of fighting with them to get our money back :(
     
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    i wish i could get my money back.

    ill chalk it up to a dumb experiment. or even a risky one. but man... im so disappointed after so many great fascade reviews.

    im glad im not the only one chiming in on these lights.
     
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    They made us take apart the fixture - take pictures - and still tried to say we did something wrong. The thing was smoking not more than an hour after we had them on
     
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    Russ265 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    sounds about what i experienced with their customer support. i tried working with them for a spell. but you know how it is. after a time, you cut the losses and move on.
     
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    What did you purchase them with. Most credit cards will work with bad products purchased. Should give it a try.
     
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    Russ265 Well-Known Member R2R Supporter

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    paypal. i could put in a complaint but i think i got what i paid for. it was a risk and a throw of the dice.
    this is one of the times the " you get what you pay for"ers can point at me lol.

    if it was 90 days and all the lights burned out, well... i would have a go at them.

    this is just poorly engineered chinese junk with some decent features. eh well

    just a warning for others. i wanted to be 100% sure before i made a post about this brand of led.
     
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    Truly sorry about your experience with a Chinese lighting product. IMO if your going budget shopping IMO from what I hear Reef Radiance has a 165W WifI Fixture around $289 I think. IMO if you stay with American Cree or German Leds these issues will not likely happen.
    I have 2 years on my fixtures and "O" issues. No Fans required either. Aqua Ray's .(has 5 year warranty):cool::cool::cool::cool:
    Wishing you the Best of luck on your next lighting endeavor. :):):):cool: http://americanaquariumproducts.com/
     
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    Glad I read this. Thanks for sharing Russ.
     
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    Orphek doesn't seem to have the greatest US customer service either. On another forum a guy went through quite an ordeal on a brand new unit.
     
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