Need some fish stocking advise (Tangs) - 75 gallon reef tank

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Hey everyone,

As the title says I am looking for some insight for adding multiple tangs in my 75 g reef tank. So my reef tank is going on 4 years and is well established. The current live stock is as follows:

2 Storm Clown fish
1 Flame Hawk
1 six line wrasse (Super jerk)
1 Melanarus Wrasse
1 Scopas Tang

Now I also had a Tomini Tang for almost 3 years (got along great with the Scopas tang) and I recently needed to rehome him as he began to pick on my Jellybean Chalice and Warpaint Bowerbanki. He starting picking on them due to my target feeding Reef Roids and the fish love some Roids! I even tried feeding to tank mysis for a distraction but they were too smart and once the mysis were gone they went right after the roids.

I recently picked up a small Tomini Tang (about 1 1/2 inches long) and he has been in qt for 3 weeks now. Heres the dilemma, I just purchased a White-tail Bristletooth Tang for $100 (I have always wanted one but didnt want to dish out $250 for one) and is about 3-4 inches long. I am planing on picking him up this coming weekend.

Here are a few questions:

Anyone know if the 2 bristletooth tang can coincide together in a 75g reef tank?

Would it be best to keep the Tomini in QT and introduce the White-tail to the QT and reset the QT time line? (QT tank is a 20 gallon Long)?

I do have an acclimation box I will be using so I could just take the Tomini and put him in the 75g tank and observe him for a week and then release if needed but I was thinking of introducing them both at the same time.

Thanks for the feedback and advise
 

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You would really pushing it with three tangs, especially with two of the same species that are different sizes. I don't think you should do it, but if you do it, i would introduce both of them at the exact same time, and maybe try finding two that are the same size if you can. but even if they get along you never know if the scopas tang is going to territorial with them.
 
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75 gallon tank is arguably too small for even the scopas alone. I would not add a second tang, let alone a third.

Don't think there's anything you can do to stop the violence. Scopas tangs are territorial and it is not going to be happy with two new tankmates, and bristletooths aren't always confident enough to stand up for themselves.
 
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I am planning on upgrading to a 5ft tank but I am still 1-2 years away. Would it help if i removed the Scopas Tang for a day or 2 and introduced them all back in at the same time?
 

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Far too small but you'll do whatever pleases you only by the sounds of it.

Most have said it's too small already but you seem to not hear them and still ask totally oblivious to the fact regarding tank size.

Sorry to be blunt but it's obvious.

After all, you was selling your Tomini the other week because you said your tank was too small and now you're adding more than you originally had. See your thread below

 

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Hey everyone,

As the title says I am looking for some insight for adding multiple tangs in my 75 g reef tank. So my reef tank is going on 4 years and is well established. The current live stock is as follows:

2 Storm Clown fish
1 Flame Hawk
1 six line wrasse (Super jerk)
1 Melanarus Wrasse
1 Scopas Tang

Now I also had a Tomini Tang for almost 3 years (got along great with the Scopas tang) and I recently needed to rehome him as he began to pick on my Jellybean Chalice and Warpaint Bowerbanki. He starting picking on them due to my target feeding Reef Roids and the fish love some Roids! I even tried feeding to tank mysis for a distraction but they were too smart and once the mysis were gone they went right after the roids.

I recently picked up a small Tomini Tang (about 1 1/2 inches long) and he has been in qt for 3 weeks now. Heres the dilemma, I just purchased a White-tail Bristletooth Tang for $100 (I have always wanted one but didnt want to dish out $250 for one) and is about 3-4 inches long. I am planing on picking him up this coming weekend.

Here are a few questions:

Anyone know if the 2 bristletooth tang can coincide together in a 75g reef tank?

Would it be best to keep the Tomini in QT and introduce the White-tail to the QT and reset the QT time line? (QT tank is a 20 gallon Long)?

I do have an acclimation box I will be using so I could just take the Tomini and put him in the 75g tank and observe him for a week and then release if needed but I was thinking of introducing them both at the same time.

Thanks for the feedback and advise
Yeah no, just no. Thats about to be battle royal in there. One tang in a 75 can be pushing it but three? Not going to end well…. Rehome scopas and tomini and put the white tail in. Do not add all 3 and “wait for an upgrade” that might not come, especially if it isnt in a few months time. If it was me I would keep the scopas, not get rhe white tail and rehome tomini.
 

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Ever seen a 4,5,6,10,20 ft long tank sitting on the bottom of the ocean where tangs “naturally” live? Point being it doesn’t really matter what size tank you have it doesn’t compare at all to the fishes natural habitat so I say go for it, deal with the consequences however they come, if they do
 

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75 gallon tank is arguably too small for even the scopas alone. I would not add a second tang, let alone a third.

Don't think there's anything you can do to stop the violence. Scopas tangs are territorial and it is not going to be happy with two new tankmates, and bristletooths aren't always confident enough to stand up for themselves.
This^^^^^
 

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Ever seen a 4,5,6,10,20 ft long tank sitting on the bottom of the ocean where tangs “naturally” live? Point being it doesn’t really matter what size tank you have it doesn’t compare at all to the fishes natural habitat so I say go for it, deal with the consequences however they come, if they do
This is probably the worst advice Ive ever seen on this form…
 

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Whoop whoop it’s the sound of the police, whoop whoop it’s the sound of the beast.
If ya know , ya know!
Sorry just had to.
Seriously though, a small tang in a 75 is fine for a little while. 3 not so much.

Play at play at, play at your own risk.
 

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Whoop whoop it’s the sound of the police, whoop whoop it’s the sound of the beast.
If ya know , ya know!
Sorry just had to.
Seriously though, a small tang in a 75 is fine for a little while. 3 not so much.

Play at play at, play at your own risk.
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Ever seen a 4,5,6,10,20 ft long tank sitting on the bottom of the ocean where tangs “naturally” live? Point being it doesn’t really matter what size tank you have it doesn’t compare at all to the fishes natural habitat so I say go for it, deal with the consequences however they come, if they do

This is probably the worst advice Ive ever seen on this form…
Wow. Just........Wow.
 

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Wahhhhhhhh

Birds in cages, lions at the zoo, cows in pens meh who cares. Put a tang in a tank less than 6 feet and everybody’s head explodes
Its our jobs to care for and provide for our animals. No one was talking about the zoo as this is a fish form… maybe try to help someone on the thread for a change instead of trolling?
 

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I'm not posting this to encourage people to keep tangs in small tanks. But it is possible to have a couple in a smaller tanks with no aggresion. The right tangs are important as is the rock scape. I keep a yellow added as an adult and two spot bristle tooth that was a young adult I would say when added. They have been together a bit over 14 months the yellow was added first and I have never seen a single tail smack from either not even when feeding. They spend the entire day cruising around cleaning rocks. Tank is 36x22x22" I was just watching them last night and was amazed at how peaceful the tank is with these two fish so I decided to record a video. The only other fish are a piecefull sixline and an electric blue damsel that bothers no one but me. Video is rather long for posting but I was enjoying it so I didn't cut it too short. I will mention I do have a 7ft tank if things do go bad I can move fish around. I would not have attempted this if I didn't have the ability to move the fish out if needed. Tangs are my most valuable cuc members is why I attempted this. Any tank I keep with no tangs has an algae problem.

 

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Wahhhhhhhh

Birds in cages, lions at the zoo, cows in pens meh who cares. Put a tang in a tank less than 6 feet and everybody’s head explodes
There are good reasons behind tank size recommendations. They've been in place for decades. You can place smaller tangs in a 4 footer without issue. But only a certain number of them. One is plenty for a 75. Even a 90. Your attitude reminds me of my kids when they were preteens. Well, one of them. The other would have known better. You have to be careful, as people WILL follow bad advise. In this case, I don't think it's a problem. I've given bad advise in the past, we all have. The difference here is you're acting out in a manner inconsistent with common sense. Just learn from your mistakes and move forward in a positive fashion.
 

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keep a yellow added as an adult and two spot bristle tooth that was a young adult I would say when added.
Yellow and bristle tooth are probably the easiest to get that to work with. I've got 5 tangs right now in 230 gallons and there has been some aggression, but eventually all the tangs ganged up on the angel and since I pulled the angel it's been peace.
 

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